Build up for the theatre of prawns

[SB]

It's a time-passer & i dont take it 'very seriously' - i'm actually laughing at you at this precise moment. So not serious at all And it's not me closing the threads, is it? Take it up with the librarians. I just find your little agenda to get try and get me banned, or whatever you're trying to do, incredibly sad. Why else do you make a point of trying to point out stuff like that all the time?

You'll no doubt carry on and i cant stop you, so i'll leave it there as i've made my point. Hopefully you'll grow out of it.

i have no agenda

but believe what you will.

sir sir ban 5 cups as he doesnt agree with me sir sir sir

anyway i jest tbh i just find you an easy target

nothing more nothing less. oh maybe i do think you tend to argue more than anyone else even when people agree with you, you find something to debate with them

however your right a major point of the board is to debate and as heavy going as it can be at time how dull would it be if everyone agreed

back to barms for a second

Just walk away Gentlemen and agree to disagree

[DannyMan2006]

Forums are to debate. If everyone agreed there would be no point. As long as the argument is at least debatable then I don't see the problems.

[Craig_H]

Fair play - just so mods dont do their usual thing of turning up and re-igniting an already exhausted flame, i'll just say fair enough, agree to disagree and leave it there. Things were much easier when i had marsh on ignore (just messing about Marsh mate, that wasnt an attempt to restart the argument mate )

[Slinky Skills]

its a bit too prefect and ringeworthy for me

You obviously know.

Thankfully I can report back that this statement is incorrect, or was 9 years ago anyways

It was less than 9 years ago when I got told about it so it must be true.

[CJ]

Forums are to debate. If everyone agreed there would be no point. As long as the argument is at least debatable then I don't see the problems.

i disagree

actually i dont

it is a problem when its the same debate again and again and again

i imagine more of a problem is the decline in the club so thererefore you start to argue/debate about the more negative things

when winning this is a great place the whole thing is a chore at the moment.

though a win on sunday and we will have a nice day i imagine

[CJ]

Fair play - just so mods dont do their usual thing of turning up and re-igniting an already exhausted flame, i'll just say fair enough, agree to disagree and leave it there. Things were much easier when i had marsh on ignore (just messing about Marsh mate, that wasnt an attempt to restart the argument mate )

[DannyMan2006]

i head it was a boarding school game

i may have met someone who played the game not sure though memory can play tricks

Ha! It's bad enough going for a piss and having some saddo stare at your penis to "compare" sizes. Having them stare at your penis as you both ranked wouldn't be my cup of tea, reckon I'd find that a bit off putting

[Slinky Skills]

Jesus,

I think I'm seeing things here, you two have actually agreed on something for once.

[banditos]

Half your time spent on here is spent focusing on what i'm doing/saying.

It's seriously sad mate. Ever tried just discussing the topic, instead of individual posters? It's all a bit 'school prefect' & cringeworthy.

With the amount you post Craig, this is probably true for everyone in the forum.

[wiw]

Jesus wept

United buid-up thread. This is the United build-up thread. Please start a soggy biscuit thread in Chat Chat Chat if you simply must talk about it

[CJ]

Jesus,

I think I'm seeing things here, you two have actually agreed on something for once.

it wont last

[Vermilion]

Sir Alex Ferguson and Roy Hodgson united in admiration and friendship

• Managers pay each other compliments before big match
• Relationship marks stark change from Rafael Benítez era

guardian.co.uk, Friday 17 September 2010 22.29

Roy Hodgson Roy Hodgson said that in his time in the game he regarded Sir Alex Ferguson as the greatest manager in English football. Photograph: Tim Hales/AP

It was an unusual sight: the first Manchester United game of the season and on the forecourt of Old Trafford the Liverpool manager, Roy Hodgson, signing autographs and politely fixing a smile while supporters snapped at him with mobile phones – unusual because the tribalism and history surrounding these clubs means Sir Alex Ferguson has to plan his visits to Anfield like a military operation.

Ferguson remembers one spying mission on Merseyside when the greeting as he got out of his car was "You Manc *******, come to see the champions?" There is old footage of him being jeered and harassed as he is escorted to the ground by two policemen, with the club's head of security close by. The United manager is doing a pretty good job of pretending he is oblivious to the Liverpool fan repeatedly shouting (expletives removed): "You must be lost mate, wrong ground."

But Hodgson inspires different emotions. The United fanzine Red Issue has begun a cartoon strip – "Watch Out It's Woy Boy" – mocking the way he pronounces his Rs (no wonder Albert Riera has been sold) but it is not malicious stuff. On Sunday, when the two clubs renew hostilities at Old Trafford, the home crowd may find it unusually difficult to conform to tradition and instantly regard him as a reviled enemy and that is certainly so for Ferguson, given the strength of a friendship dating back over 20 years.

Ferguson's relationship with the previous Liverpool manager, Rafael Benítez, had reached the point where he would refer to the Spaniard only by his surname and their handshakes at the end of matches were wonderfully orchestrated manoeuvres of contempt – no eye contact whatever, the briefest of touches, already moving in opposite directions, an operation freighted with cold disdain.

The animosity lingers. Ferguson was asked earlier this season about Benítez moving to Internazionale and José Mourinho to Read Madrid and "those permutations considered, do they favour United?" A smile crossed his lips. "They favour Madrid, no doubt about that," he replied.

Hodgson, on the other hand, counts as a personal friend, someone with whom he has spent many a night putting the world to rights. The two men share many things: a love of red wine, storytelling, politics, books, nostalgia and, most of all, football. Hodgson, at 63, is five years younger than Ferguson but closer to him in age than any other manager in the Premier League and sees him as being on his wavelength. Their biggest difference is that Hodgson's feelings towards Sam Allardyce, one of Ferguson's allies, are similar to those held by the grudge-collector Benítez. As for Hodgson's opinion of Ferguson, it is simple: "In my working lifetime I regard him as the greatest manager in English football."

In the Benítez years the press conferences before these matches had an undercurrent, occasionally spilling over into open hostility. Today they were cordial events, the two managers respectful of one another, with only good things to say.

"I know Alex is not really a Liverpool man but I've spoken to him and, in a jocular way, I asked that now I have this job we don't speak to each other," Hodgson said. "He didn't put the phone down. He made some cutting remark but I can't remember what it was." He believes they will share a bottle of wine at some point, though "maybe in secret".

In return Ferguson told the story of how they met one night in Malmo in 1987, when he had flown to Sweden only for the game to be called off inside the first few minutes. A 40-year-old Hodgson was managing Malmo at the time and got wind that the United manager had made a wasted journey. "It was a European tie against Ajax and we went to dinner," Ferguson recalled. "I've known him a long time now. He's gathered a wealth of experience in Italy, Switzerland, Finland and Scandinavia and the job he did last season at Fulham was extraordinary" – so good that Ferguson voted for him to be named the League Managers Association's manager of the year.

Later it was put to Ferguson that Hodgson's appointment had taken some of the sting out of the game because there were no longer personal issues between the rival dug-outs.

"I must correct you right away," he replied with a flash of indignation. "I've never been personal. You'd have to examine him [Benítez], not me. I've always enjoyed a good relationship with the Liverpool managers and both clubs have always addressed the situation properly after games. That changed under the last regime but it's not a big issue for me."

One certainty, though, is that the handshake at the final whistle on Sunday will be markedly different from the previous few seasons.

"I've always believed you don't have battles with other managers," Hodgson said. "Football teams have battles with other football teams, clubs have battles with other clubs. I've never subscribed to the theory that it's me and you. The 70,000 at Old Trafford turn up to watch the 22 actors on the field, not Alex and myself."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/sep/17/roy-hodgson-sir-alex-ferguson

[CJ]

Ha! It's bad enough going for a piss and having some saddo stare at your penis to "compare" sizes. Having them stare at your penis as you both ranked wouldn't be my cup of tea, reckon I'd find that a bit off putting

plus what a waste of biscuits

i recomend ginger nuts they tend to be hardy dunkers

[SB]

Jesus wept

United buid-up thread. This is the United build-up thread. Please start a soggy biscuit thread in Chat Chat Chat if you simply must talk about it

Sorry Will but no-one can take you serious mate with that avatar of yours

[DannyMan2006]

Yeah Marsh, such are the problems at the club the debates tend to revolve around the same issues, because the issues never get resolved and because there is always something in the press to stir it up. To compound matters we've been poor on the pitch and this has led to ongoing problems with managers and certain players.

It's a ncer ending **** storm at present.