Utd - Liverpool post match

[CJ]

Neil

is it a ****ing nightmare

[Rich]

We were pretty diabolical for most of the game. My one hope is the we ditch Skrtel for Agger and stick with the rest to try and build some familiarity between them. Otherwise we are looking at a bleak, bleak seaon.

[Slinky Skills]

I would be astonished if we win 3 out of the next 5 games, let alone all 5.

I do think we'll improve somewhat, the team's all round play will get better I'm sure but I must admit, at this moment in time I can't see us winning all 5, and that's without trying to be too negative.

If we COULD win all 5 then that would do wonders for our confidence, we need need to go on a run of 4-5 games unbeaten but I just can't see it happening.

[Craig_H]

Might be a case of seeing a different game from what i may have seen if i'd watched it on tv, but i thought we were pretty good today. First half wasnt great, but it was Man Utd away, we're in the mire at the moment and we were never going to come racing out of the traps. But we eased ourselves in and gradually asserted ourselves, while preventing them from really creating anything of note. The goal before half time was a kick in the teeth, we deserved to go in level.

2nd half started slow, and frustratingly, we didnt get ourselves going until they scored the second goal. If we went for it more before we'd conceded a two goal defecit, we might've got something. Even then, we were unlucky to lose IMO.

Our spirit and character to come back was excellent, albeit the penalty sparked us into life. Biggest frustration is that after we equalised, they were on the back foot and we had all the momentum (and should've been full of confidence). I felt the game was there for us, but we just stopped playing and went into our shell. Even with 10 mins left, we were far too deep and just inviting pressure. Their winner seemed inevitable, we were virtually rolling out the red carpet for them to come to our goal.

Overall though, i'm a bit more upbeat. If we'd played with that kind of character at City, it would've been different. 3 (or even 4) of our first 5 games have been horrible and while 5 points is disappointing, if we'd just held on against Arsenal, we'd have a healthier 7. Fine margins 'n' all.

But the excuse is gone now, those first 5 are gone now and we can at least say we wont have Arsenal, United or City again now for half a season. The 'easy' run starts now, so no more excuses. 6 points in our next 2 games (at home) is a must and could take us into the derby nicely.

Re today, i was quietly impressed with Meireles and Poulsen too, Gerrard was well disciplined & put in a real captain's display - and Cole was lively, if inconsistent. N'Gog made a difference when he came on. Torres was a mixed bag, won the penalty and the foul which led to the equaliser - but his body language was poor and he was the only Liverpool player (IIRC) who didnt come over to clap the fans - that's not on for me, he's incredibly frustrated and acting the brat right now. I'm convinced he's gone in January, or next summer at the latest, but while he's here, he needs to ****ing stop acting like a spoilt kid and man up.

Furthermore, when he's in strop mode and not performing, he cant play as a lone striker because he's far too easy to deal with. When he wants it, then yeah, for sure. But he looks disinterested at the moment and it's not on.

[Mostar]

I do think we'll improve somewhat, the team's all round play will get better I'm sure but I must admit, at this moment in time I can't see us winning all 5, and that's without trying to be too negative.

If we COULD win all 5 then that would do wonders for our confidence, we need need to go on a run of 4-5 games unbeaten but I just can't see it happening.

C'mon Slinky. Stay optimist as you've been so far

I personally think we will go on a tear and win 4 out of 5 games.

[Craig_H]

Just a word for their stewards and the police too - in fairness, they were really sound. I was right by the 'divide' between fans and the old bill dealt with mancs and their 'murderers' ****e as much as they dealt with our nobheads.

Furthermore, they were able to accurately identify who was being a cock and who wasnt - rather than opting for a 'carpet-bombing' style of enforcement.

Pleasantly surprised.

[Shaggy]

****ing horrible place that, by the divide.

And amazed to hear of good policing there. It was only recently they started keeping us in...not long ago they threw you out to the lions. Thousands of them waiting......when they win. Strangely absent when they lose.

[Slinky Skills]

C'mon Slinky. Stay optimist as you've been so far

I personally think we will go on a tear and win 4 out of 5 games.

It's hard mate.

I am trying to but today's loss has made me realise how bad a state we're in and how poor a team we have in comparison to those above us.

It just looks so bleak, I will try and remain confident though if I can bud!

[Shaggy]

If Aurelio ever gets fit again he'll improve the back four. IMO a defence of Johnson-Carra-Agger-Aurelio looks a lot stronger and better balanced than the one we put out today.

[DannyMan2006]

If Aurelio ever gets fit again he'll improve the back four. IMO a defence of Johnson-Carra-Agger-Aurelio looks a lot stronger and better balanced than the one we put out today.

For sure.

[Craig_H]

****ing horrible place that, by the divide.

And amazed to hear of good policing there. It was only recently they started keeping us in...not long ago they threw you out to the lions. Thousands of them waiting......when they win. Strangely absent when they lose.

Yep, my heart sank as soon as i got in and saw where i was sitting. I think there were 2 or 3 seats to my right, then a steward, then the 'sheet' divide thing. Very unpleasant. I just kept my eye on the pitch and tried to ignore the bollocks. Some of our lot dont help themselves either, though.

[Shaggy]

**** isn't it. You did well to not respond though, very easy to get dragged into it all.

[mick the click]

Might be a case of seeing a different game from what i may have seen if i'd watched it on tv, but i thought we were pretty good today. First half wasnt great, but it was Man Utd away, we're in the mire at the moment and we were never going to come racing out of the traps. But we eased ourselves in and gradually asserted ourselves, while preventing them from really creating anything of note. The goal before half time was a kick in the teeth, we deserved to go in level.

2nd half started slow, and frustratingly, we didnt get ourselves going until they scored the second goal. If we went for it more before we'd conceded a two goal defecit, we might've got something. Even then, we were unlucky to lose IMO.

Our spirit and character to come back was excellent, albeit the penalty sparked us into life. Biggest frustration is that after we equalised, they were on the back foot and we had all the momentum (and should've been full of confidence). I felt the game was there for us, but we just stopped playing and went into our shell. Even with 10 mins left, we were far too deep and just inviting pressure. Their winner seemed inevitable, we were virtually rolling out the red carpet for them to come to our goal.

Overall though, i'm a bit more upbeat. If we'd played with that kind of character at City, it would've been different. 3 (or even 4) of our first 5 games have been horrible and while 5 points is disappointing, if we'd just held on against Arsenal, we'd have a healthier 7. Fine margins 'n' all.

But the excuse is gone now, those first 5 are gone now and we can at least say we wont have Arsenal, United or City again now for half a season. The 'easy' run starts now, so no more excuses. 6 points in our next 2 games (at home) is a must and could take us into the derby nicely.

Re today, i was quietly impressed with Meireles and Poulsen too, Gerrard was well disciplined & put in a real captain's display - and Cole was lively, if inconsistent. N'Gog made a difference when he came on. Torres was a mixed bag, won the penalty and the foul which led to the equaliser - but his body language was poor and he was the only Liverpool player (IIRC) who didnt come over to clap the fans - that's not on for me, he's incredibly frustrated and acting the brat right now. I'm convinced he's gone in January, or next summer at the latest, but while he's here, he needs to ****ing stop acting like a spoilt kid and man up.

Furthermore, when he's in strop mode and not performing, he cant play as a lone striker because he's far too easy to deal with. When he wants it, then yeah, for sure. But he looks disinterested at the moment and it's not on.

Ta for that, nicely put and gives me a bit of hope - except the Nando bit.

[Rudo]

Might be a case of seeing a different game from what i may have seen if i'd watched it on tv, but i thought we were pretty good today. First half wasnt great, but it was Man Utd away, we're in the mire at the moment and we were never going to come racing out of the traps. But we eased ourselves in and gradually asserted ourselves, while preventing them from really creating anything of note. The goal before half time was a kick in the teeth, we deserved to go in level.

2nd half started slow, and frustratingly, we didnt get ourselves going until they scored the second goal. If we went for it more before we'd conceded a two goal defecit, we might've got something. Even then, we were unlucky to lose IMO.

Our spirit and character to come back was excellent, albeit the penalty sparked us into life. Biggest frustration is that after we equalised, they were on the back foot and we had all the momentum (and should've been full of confidence). I felt the game was there for us, but we just stopped playing and went into our shell. Even with 10 mins left, we were far too deep and just inviting pressure. Their winner seemed inevitable, we were virtually rolling out the red carpet for them to come to our goal.

Overall though, i'm a bit more upbeat. If we'd played with that kind of character at City, it would've been different. 3 (or even 4) of our first 5 games have been horrible and while 5 points is disappointing, if we'd just held on against Arsenal, we'd have a healthier 7. Fine margins 'n' all.

But the excuse is gone now, those first 5 are gone now and we can at least say we wont have Arsenal, United or City again now for half a season. The 'easy' run starts now, so no more excuses. 6 points in our next 2 games (at home) is a must and could take us into the derby nicely.

Re today, i was quietly impressed with Meireles and Poulsen too, Gerrard was well disciplined & put in a real captain's display - and Cole was lively, if inconsistent. N'Gog made a difference when he came on. Torres was a mixed bag, won the penalty and the foul which led to the equaliser - but his body language was poor and he was the only Liverpool player (IIRC) who didnt come over to clap the fans - that's not on for me, he's incredibly frustrated and acting the brat right now. I'm convinced he's gone in January, or next summer at the latest, but while he's here, he needs to ****ing stop acting like a spoilt kid and man up.

Furthermore, when he's in strop mode and not performing, he cant play as a lone striker because he's far too easy to deal with. When he wants it, then yeah, for sure. But he looks disinterested at the moment and it's not on.

Fair points but we didn't deserve to go in at half-time level. Second half was more 50:50.
- I just thought United were always likely to run out winners, even when got it back to 2-2. Was still a real kick in the balls though.

[billy_mac]

Our full backs need to stop crosses coming in. Nowhere near enough pressure being put on the ball coming in.

We need to take confidence from the football we played in the second half. We need to learn from the crap we played in the first half. We ran into a once in a life time performance today from Berbatov, but we stood up for 20 or so minutes, I feared for 4 or 5 nil when it went to 2. I think a reality check is needed on here, what do people expect out of this team now?

They showed some positives and some crap, you can work with crap and Roy will do that, its the type of manager he is. It will be a slow burner though.

3-2 is very hard to take after coming back to 2-2, but it was a better performance than away to Man City and we'll be better for losing 3-2 than 3-0.