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I don't want this guy near our club at all. He can get ****ed for all I care. He's not interested in football at all, this is all business again, the money to buy the club is very likely to be borrowed again. His love is baseball, the interview I saw stated that he as looking at investments to help grow the red sox!!!
**** him, we'll be in the same position as the manc fans (in that we will hate our owners and want another change) in a couple of years only without the success.
This is not the answer. Same ****, different faces.
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I've been getting similar feelings, that i'm trying to fight off as irrational, but i admit i'm worried, i had thought i'd be ecstatic once i finally heard the news we'd been sold, but i'm not, when i hear he made his cash in hedge funds, it just points to a certain type of person for me, smart yes, but money is their god.Originally posted by Torres View PostI don't want this guy near our club at all. He can get ****ed for all I care. He's not interested in football at all, this is all business again, the money to buy the club is very likely to be borrowed again. His love is baseball, the interview I saw stated that he as looking at investments to help grow the red sox!!!
**** him, we'll be in the same position as the manc fans (in that we will hate our owners and want another change) in a couple of years only without the success.
This is not the answer. Same ****, different faces.
Maybe i'm just a grumpy cunt (answers on a post card) or just as i say paranoid, or maybe my expectations were to big...which i suspect is the answer, but i so wanted an owner with true wealth of his own, who was willing to invest in lfc, but maybe hoping for an owner like that was just pie in the sky.
I just thought lfc was that attractive to that sort of person... but we're not, we attract only those who want to use the club to make money, which is fair enough i suppose if it's run properly, but will it allow us to challenge season in season out...i'm not so sure.
He sounds like a good guy, but does he really have the wealth, or are we to struggle on into the forseeable future...as ever, here's hoping my worries will be blown away by the good actions of our new owner.Last edited by Vermilion; 06-10-10, 02:11 PM.
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Originally posted by Vermilion View PostI've been getting similar feelings, that i'm trying to fight off as irrational, but i admit i'm worried, i had thought i'd be ecstatic once i finally heard the news we'd been sold, but i'm not.
Maybe i'm just a grumpy cunt (answers on a post card) or just as i say paranoid, or maybe my expectations were to big...which i suspect is the answer, but i so wanted an owner with true wealth of his own, who was willing to invest in lfc, but maybe hoping for an owner like that was just pie in the sky.
I just thought lfc was that attractive to that sort of person... but we're not, we attract only those who want to use the club to make money, which is fair enough i suppose if it's run properly, but will it allow us to challenge season in season out...i'm not so sure.
Once bitten...
Is it too much to ask for our owners to be true football fans? **** hedge funds, I want LFC to be someone's passion not someones portfolio.
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We dont live in that era anymore......Originally posted by Torres View Post
Once bitten...
Is it too much to ask for our owners to be true football fans? **** hedge funds, I want LFC to be someone's passion not someones portfolio.
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Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
Think we have the answer..Slot!!



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With respect, I think you're looking at this incredibly naivelyOriginally posted by Vermilion View PostI've been getting similar feelings, that i'm trying to fight off as irrational, but i admit i'm worried, i had thought i'd be ecstatic once i finally heard the news we'd been sold, but i'm not, when i hear he made his cash in hedge funds, it just points to a certain type of person for me, smart yes, but money is their god.
Maybe i'm just a grumpy cunt (answers on a post card) or just as i say paranoid, or maybe my expectations were to big...which i suspect is the answer, but i so wanted an owner with true wealth of his own, who was willing to invest in lfc, but maybe hoping for an owner like that was just pie in the sky.
I just thought lfc was that attractive to that sort of person... but we're not, we attract only those who want to use the club to make money, which is fair enough i suppose if it's run properly, but will it allow us to challenge season in season out...i'm not so sure.
He sounds like a good guy, but does he really have the wealth, or are we to struggle on into the forseeable future...as ever, here's hoping my worries will be blown away by the good actions of our new owner.
Nowhere has it been suggested that this will be a leveraged buy out. Him making his money in hedge funds shouldn't even be considered providing that we're purchased with no debt as appears to be the case.
I think because of this whole issue, hedge funds have come out as being the root of all evil but in reality, I think there are so many misconceptions about it and many people simply don't understand what hedge funds are
Would you really want us to be the next Man City?
For me, being run properly is enough. With some cash for the team, we should be able to compete again; and without debt and considering our improved commercials, we should be on sound footing and be able to spend reasonably again
I'd also love it if Ricky Tomlinson, Cilla Black, The Beatles, The La's and the 1977 cup winning squad put together a consortium to buy us but in their absence, someone with a sports background and experience of taking a badly run club back to where it belongs is surely a decent optionOriginally posted by Torres View Post
Once bitten...
Is it too much to ask for our owners to be true football fans? **** hedge funds, I want LFC to be someone's passion not someones portfolio.I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet
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Maybe maybe not. You should probably do a little more research into NESV as for starters it is not just 1 guy it is a group of people including the New York Times. Secondly NESV do not just own the Red Sox they have other interests which are all successful in their own rights. Yes Baseball and Football are different but you shouldn't tar them with the same brush they are nothing like our current owners.Originally posted by Torres View PostI don't want this guy near our club at all. He can get ****ed for all I care. He's not interested in football at all, this is all business again, the money to buy the club is very likely to be borrowed again. His love is baseball, the interview I saw stated that he as looking at investments to help grow the red sox!!!
**** him, we'll be in the same position as the manc fans (in that we will hate our owners and want another change) in a couple of years only without the success.
This is not the answer. Same ****, different faces.
Speaking as both a Liverpool and Red Sox fan these guys could be the right fit, as owners take their sporting interests seriously, the understand the values of the Red Sox and the local residents and hopefully the same model will apply to us.Liverpool FC re-established 15th October 2010
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Yep...I'm paranoid that Hicks will find a way to cling on somehow.Originally posted by PoolG View PostWe arent sold yet and hicks is guaranteed to fight till the last so nothing to feel good about yet.
I reserve judgement until we actually have been sold.
On the positive side, I'm interested in Broughton's reference that if the judgement goes against us the board may have other ideas though....I'm guessing this refers to them having proven that the board has the authority to block re-financing by doing so earlier in the year. So, keep blocking re-finance and persuade RBS to call in the loan, seize the club and sell to NESV?
Also, if Hicks thought he had the authority to replace board members, then surely he'd have done it earlier in the summer when they blocked his re-financing deal? This might show that it's desperation, that he knows full well that the board has the authority to do this and the legal challenge is just a last throw of the dice?
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That is exactly the mentality that got us into this mess in the first place!Originally posted by Havors View Postim worried that the new owners are not rich enough... weve always had enough money to buy mediocre players, its about time we got the money to buy the best
fingers crossed though, Roy still has to go!
If this goes through we are being bought by a corporation with several shareholders rich in their own right. As long as this corporation has enough liquid capital (Cash) to purchase the club without loans then I'm happy on that front.
After that we need to be well run, and for me anyway, Ayre has been doing a cracking job and I'm not as down on purslow as some others given the circumstances he's been operating under and the apparent subterfuge re: the owners and managing the sale process.
Whinging for a sugar daddy is cringeworthy and certainly not The Liverpool Way, we don't need charity, just to cut the leaches loose and get our commercial side in order. Do that and we should be able to compete at the top table. But there will never be any guarantees of success, just look at Real Madrid!"that is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it" - Mr A.Fergusson, Oct 2011
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I'm feeling pretty damn good about it. All my research has shown that these owners are pretty damn excellent when it comes to the Red Sox. They do charge high prices for tickets mind, but when you think that they were bought in 2002 they hadn't won a championship series for 86 seasons, and within two years these owners had delivered that. They won world series in 2004 and again in 2007. I've also checked red sox fan forums and the owners are well respected. They are NOT sugar daddies by any means, but not afraid to spend money but there always must be value attached to that spending.
Also this is worth a look:
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