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**** me that is hilarious ha ha!!
Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."
Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.
Paul Konchesky has urged Liverpool fans to get behind Roy Hodgson despite this season's far from ideal run of results.
The style of play on offer at Anfield is far different from the one supporters were accustomed to under Hodgson's predeces...sor Rafael Benitez and post mortems on the current campaign are already being conducted by some quarters of the Reds' fan base.
But Konchesky remains confident that fortunes can be revived if the man he followed to Merseyside is given an enhanced level of support from the stands.
"I know right now the fans obviously want a different style of football, but I think his style will work here," he told the Daily Express.
"The supporters need to get behind him a bit more.
"He wants to be at the top. He isn't happy about us being eighth and ninth. I knew coming to Liverpool that the expectations would be different to Fulham, but I didn't fully understand by how much until I got here.
"Every single person in Liverpool wants their team to be back in the top four. The pressure is high, but it's also good because you have to show people what you are about.
"The league is funny this season. It's not just Liverpool not winning matches. It gives us a chance of getting back up there, especially if we do well over Christmas when we'll have players coming back from injury."
Konchesky was set to face a cold shoulder from the Kop in today's visit of former club Fulham, which has been postponed due to adverse weather conditions, after comments made by his mother in his defence on Facebook emerged which irked some supporters.
The left-back initially struggled to acclimatise to life at Anfield which resulted in severe criticism in certain quarters about his suitability as a Liverpool player. And the 29-year-old acknowledges that his initial form since joining in the summer was not of his usual standard.
He added: "I've seen and heard that said, but people would have to tell me what a Liverpool player is to them.
"At first my form struggled and I was injured, but lately I've got myself fit and have done all right. I want to do better but, in a way, I think it's easy for people to say things about me.
"I haven't been here before and I am one of the manager's signings.
"People have an opinion of me now. After a few months, if we finish fourth or fifth, would their opinion of me be different? I will get on with it, get over it and prove them all wrong."
"I knew coming to Liverpool that the expectations would be different to Fulham, but I didn't fully understand by how much until I got here."
And that's why you're a **** mediocre player who doesnt belong here.
He should talk after having proved himself, which he won't cos' he's ****. Nothing wrong to admit you're not good enough Paul, lots of other players before you weren't.
Duh PFK You move to the 5 times european champions and 18 times english champions and you have no idea what the expectations are? Thats why your **** and don't belong here.
A mate who works at the academy is claiming it is real, his old boss, now the assistant chief scout for Liverpool said that the flip chart was real, he was in on the meeting with the players and said you should have seen the faces on the players!!
Also reckons he will be surprised if we get anyone, other than a few youngsters that Comoli has identified and possibly Mario Gomez on loan.
He also said Reina and Torres are still at loggerheads and can't stand Hodgson and Kelly (Coach) and vice versa!!
Confirms what the Academy source posted earlier in this thread.
• The flipchart from the players meeting is 100% genuine – it wasn’t in a Newcastle hotel as it was here before they left.
• Someone who witnessed the meeting said it was the most amateurish team meeting they have been in ever.
• Kelly spent his time swearing and urging Kyriagos and Skrtel to ‘rough up’ Andy Carroll – the players are used to more detailed information such as which foot he favours etc. The swearing, as fackin this and fackin that, doesn’t go down well in a professional environment with the players
• Before the Blackpool game the scouts reports (the guys who go and watch the opposition) all outlined that if you stop Charlie Adam then you stop Blackpool – he needs time and space to dictate the play and he pulls the strings for the Blackpool front 3 – Roy basically ignored them and in the briefing meetings when he was advised to close down Adams he said ‘Why? My teams don’t do that’. He then went out with his regimented 4-4-2 and wondered why Blackpool out passed us and destroyed us in the final third of the pitch.
• Roy was presented with scouting reports of recent Newcastle performances in a meeting with scouts and Damian Commolli (oh and the swearing big, old, fat cockney Kelly). Roy actually commented that he had never seen reports with so much detail and specific information about each of the opposition players and how they played. But then said ‘But what do you want me to do with them?’
• The reports started off by highlighting how the Newcastle full backs play higher up the pitch and leave spaces in behind them to exploit. Roy said ‘so what’. It was suggested to him that the wide players may wish to get men and the ball in that area and look to get crosses in to the box – ‘We don’t play that way!’
• They showed how Newcastle launch attacks from the high up fullbacks aiming diagonal balls into Carroll. Roy was urged to get his wide men to push on the full backs and not allow them the time to get their arrowed balls into Carroll – We don’t play that way!’
• At this point Commolli quietly urged the scouts to leave it and not push it any further.
• Hodgson and Kelly have built up a serious and nasty hatred for Torres and Reina – it has all come one way but has now started to return from the Spaniards.
• Mike Kelly spends his time slating the players and doesn’t have a good word to say about any of them
Hodgson is feeling that he is not getting anywhere near the credit he should be 'for guiding this squad so easily through the Europa League'.
He has tactically took a group of young players and also rans and sailed through against full strength sides.
'Facking ell, facking ell - no one is giving me the credit I deserve for the European efforts'
He is also not happy that John Henry is in many discussions with Commolli and not Roy.
Big arguments between staff brought in by Hodgson and those already at the club about footballing philosophys.
Ex Fulham coach on the virtues of their methods and Liverpool coaches desperately trying to tell them 'but we are not Fulham'
civil war in there
What I've heard is Tom Werner and John Henry sat down with Roy after the Utrecht game and baiscally told Roy they want to see a significant change in results from now until January (don't know whether thats the beginning of January or the end) or they may be forced into making a decision on his future.
I was also told about the Pepe and Torres situation although Maxi was also included in that list.
I was told John Henry and Tom Werner over the last 3 months have scrutinised everything at Liverpool and they are not happy with the contracts in terms of wages and length that have been given to ageing to players.
I was also told that Pepe Torres and Maxi have held discussions with both Tom Werner and John Henry and expressed their concerns at the direction the club is taking under Roy, which has put Carra's and Stevie's nose out of joint and there is divisions in the squad that have gone beyond repair.
Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
If that is true then given the feedback they must have had from Commoli and two key players you have to wonder why they are keeping Roy on. Is is Gerrard and Carragher for Hodgson et al and Reina/Torres against or what. Something must be buying him more time.
"The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
not too sure how much of this to take seriously. there's a few things i don't like here, such as why are the players just now deciding the meetings are amateurish. why are they shocked now? can't imagine roy's team talks have changed that much over the past few months.
why would mario gomez be available for loan? if he wasn't in the summer, when he was ****, why would he be now when he's playing well?
that said, nobody needs telling that roy is terrible at his job. well, except a couple of england internationals, it would seem.
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