Pack your bags Roy

[Craig_H]

given the amount of time you spend posting i thought you didnt have a job!

or else you sold tvs.....

No no, that's Bender. You bender

[Shanks]

In conclusion Gerrard , in my opinion is the greatest liverpool player that I will ever see, but he aint a CM. He should be given the same licence that Messi, Ronaldo and Ronaldinho have been given over the years and set free to do as much damage as possible. Free him of all defensive responsibilities and push him forward. Believe me , every premiership team would rather have Gerrard tracking back and defending throw-ins and corners rather than trying to stop him playing one-twos and give and gos around their penalty box!!!!

....

If only we had the luxury of other quality players, to be able to do that...

Rafa took his eye off the ball last season and became a bitter man consumed in playing the media game and fighting the fans corner dayin -dayout instead of concentrating on what was happening on the pitch.

If Rafa could be criticised, it would be his stubbornness and coldness towards
delicate issues and alternative personalities.

His inability to be able to improve working relationships between himself and the players and fellow staff and his refusal or inability to make things better when they did go wrong , caused him unnecessary problems.

Surely they are qualities needed of a GREAT manager and not just a good one..

[frank the tank]

roy out....

[Glenn Hysen]

So to sum up the rumours today, Hodgson will be fired on monday. IF he gets fired. Or have I missed something?

[Lecter]

I have a suspicion that most people on here who are complaining the loudest about how useless/disorganised/indecisive FSG/NESV are, have probably never had to make a single decision of any consequence in their lives. In fact I'd say they probably struggle to decide between boiled or fried rice for their Sunday night takeaway every single time.

Think you'd be a tad wrong on that

But keep believing it if it makes you feel better

[Tatterdemalion]

I have a suspicion that most people on here who are complaining the loudest about how useless/disorganised/indecisive FSG/NESV are, have probably never had to make a single decision of any consequence in their lives. In fact I'd say they probably struggle to decide between boiled or fried rice for their Sunday night takeaway every single time.

Now obviously this leaves it open for every person coming on and claiming to be brain surgeons or Field Marshalls in Iraq or Red ****in Adair who make life or death decisions every waking minute but there is a possibility that our level of disappointment and frustration at the moment is boiling over into ignoring the nature of the decisions that FSG want to take and the way in which they want to take them. Undoubtedly there are faults in how they are publicly handling the situation but hopefully those faults will be rectified by how things are being done privately. They seem to have a huge level of respect from Baseball fans in the US so my hope is that all this will be forgotten when our new CEO, new manager, new system and new players are all up and running in the next few months. I'll take survival and no more than that in the PL as a down-payment on better times.

I say this as someone who felt that Rafa had to go at the end of last season as it seemed obvious to me that something was irretrievably broken and was willing to give Roy the benefit of the doubt at the start and who also believes the appointment of Comolli to be a step in the wrong direction.

I’m heartened by those coming on here advocating a bit of patience because the level of anger some are experiencing is unsustainable.

Unfortunately some people think passion is a substitute for intelligence. Although, I'd rather finish higher up the table than survival infers..

[badpiggy]

Think you'd be a tad wrong on that

But keep believing it if it makes you feel better

There's plenty of people coming on here at the moment claiming there's no difference between NESV and H+G or that they're cunts or that they're incompetent when the only known fact is that we have a **** manager.

Everyone agrees on that but the idea that you just sack him with zero potential negative consequences is nuts. And people are totally overreacting - and I think it's all understandable - because when you're stuck in the middle of it all time seems to move very slowly but it was short-term thinking that got us Hodgson to begin with. None of us have been here before with Liverpool so the impatience is understandable but it IS impatience and a certain amount of gullibility regarding the media which is only exacerbated by expecting to find out decisions that will make/lose millions on twitter first!

I know that Hodgson's statisitcs are damning and his realistic record is sub-standard but clearly NESV aren't the type to go all out for the likes of Mourinho midseason if everand a couple more days - surely!!! - won't make that much of a difference. I don't think the match against the scum is particularly significant in the context of our entire future. We've lost against Wolves and ****in Blackpool at home for ****s sake!

Now if he's still here on Monday...

[badpiggy]

NESV have decided to get rid of roy. The only reason he hasnt been fired already is that we dont have anyone else lined up yet who has the experience of handling such a big club, with huge pressures and expectations and with a seriously alienated dressing room.

there was some truth in the shaggy's post which was copied from rawk. Damien comolli has been pushing didier deschamps but he's reluctant to leave mid season. They dont want to give it to kenny because he is seen as a last resort. Owen coyle has also been mentioned.

We wont get someone like mourinho or a stellar name. they want low profile but high promise.

My personal take on the kenny thing is that NESV dont want give kenny the job because if results improve dramatically, there is no way the fans would accept another manager being brought in.

They want a young manager with new ideas, a willingness to take on advice from them and their advisors (ie comolli) combined with experience of the english league (not necessarily managing) but experience of managing a champions league team.

Rangnick is available for the moment but im not sure if he would consider a short term appointment especially when theyve got deschamps lined up in the summer.

Well put man And that bit about a "seriously alienated dressing room" ****in dynamite and just cause Kenny is a legend doesn't mean that Ryan Babel or Maxi or Joe Cole or Glen Johnson or any number of others will give a **** - they should but it desn't mean they will. He'd still have to earn it.

[badpiggy]

Unfortunately some people think passion is a substitute for intelligence. Although, I'd rather finish higher up the table than survival infers..

But yeah - further up would be great if ultimately pointless if it's not CL.

[CJ]

also some seem to act as the more you call someone a cunt the more passion you have and the more you care.

whats sad is that we had a reputation for being more than the average fan. All that this shows is that we only where good fans because we were winning at the time. So actually we are no different to the majority of fans. (as a collective that is)

and to some this reply will somehow indicate that i dont care and therefore are less than they are.

i wonder how we look back on this? i suppose it all depends on who the next manager is and how we improve the squad .

[badpiggy]

also some seem to act as the more you call someone a cunt the more passion you have and the more you care.

whats sad is that we had a reputation for being more than the average fan. All that this shows is that we only where good fans because we were winning at the time. So actually we are no different to the majority of fans. (as a collective that is)

and to some this reply will somehow indicate that i dont care and therefore are less than they are.

i wonder how we look back on this? i suppose it all depends on who the next manager is and how we improve the squad .

Some difference between some of us and fellas who cheer on their team up and down through relegation and promotion year after year.

We have a **** manager - and he is **** and the wrong appointment and it is shocking how a historic institution like LFC has come to this and all the other bad **** that's befallen us - but the way people are frothing at the mouth about FSG just seems ridiculous and is more an indication of what they're like that what's actually happening.

In fairness though, I don't believe that a lot of people on here who are saying they won't watch us against the scum actually won't in the end - they will and will go through the usual fan **** that match brings out. But if these few games really have put you off LFC??? "I'm not watching us till we win again" is what it boils down to regardless of what purist fan way you dress it up.

Maybe it's symptomatic of a malaise afflicting all footie fans at the moment - it's all disaffected millionaires bleating about being slaves while driving their pink hummers from brothel to brothel just to avoid a drugs test...

[CJ]

Some difference between some of us and fellas who cheer on their team up and down through relegation and promotion year after year.

We have a **** manager - and he is **** and the wrong appointment and it is shocking how a historic institution like LFC has come to this and all the other bad **** that's befallen us - but the way people are frothing at the mouth about FSG just seems ridiculous and is more an indication of what they're like that what's actually happening.

In fairness though, I don't believe that a lot of people on here who are saying they won't watch us against the scum actually won't in the end - they will and will go through the usual fan **** that match brings out. But if these few games really have put you off LFC??? "I'm not watching us till we win again" is what it boils down to regardless of what purist fan way you dress it up.

Maybe it's symptomatic of a malaise afflicting all footie fans at the moment - it's all disaffected millionaires bleating about being slaves while driving their pink hummers from brothel to brothel just to avoid a drugs test...

i think football is moving away from its fans. Also if things are **** at home its great to support a team that is winning and its a bit of escapism. the reaction from some people is understandable, but what makes me feel down is that there is a reluctance to listen or accept that things may be different to the view that is being shouted loudest.

I think it is something that many if not all fear deep down. Its not to say that they are wrong as it could still happen as described we dont know. The thing about not knowing is that it can actually be a number of things.

[Fredo]

....

If only we had the luxury of other quality players, to be able to do that...






Surely they are qualities needed of a GREAT manager and not just a good one..

Keep peddling mate, keep peddling.

[Fredo]

Hodge issues rallying cwry.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9349799.stm

[Lee]

Hodge issues rallying cwry.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/9349799.stm

Is he still here?

That's it. I said earlier that if he's still here by close of play then it's ruined my weekend.

To be honest he's ruined my year anyway, so what difference will a few days make?

If he was a horse then he'd be in the glue factory by now.

I just want the old goat gone.