Pack your bags Roy

[Fredo]

**** off.

Today the Manchester United manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, said: "Roy Hodgson doesn't need to justify his record as a manager. His experience and performance level everywhere he's been have been terrific so I'm not going to get into that. We are in a situation where managers are getting fired and threatened to be fired. There's no point even discussing it. It's a very difficult industry these days. I feel for all those managers who are under pressure and have lost their jobs."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...rpool-manager?

What a ****ing hypocritical cunt he is.

[little dave hedgehog]

What a ****ing hypocritical cunt he is.

that's no way to speak to shaggy, even if it's true.

[Fredo]

Did that girl on Twitter refer to you as the 'cocky one', or was that Shaggy?

[little dave hedgehog]

that was pitipi actually.

[Fredo]

Ah, pitipee. Keep it real Dave.

[little dave hedgehog]

keep it real.

[Shanks]

Keep peddling mate, keep peddling.

What are you on about now??

[Rich]

[Darkon]

was the puff any good?

[Shaggy]

Patrick Barclay - total cunt.

Liverpool may have their saviour in Platini

Patrick Barclay Chief Football Commentator
January 7 2011 8:19PM

While Liverpool were imagining that some of the world’s most successful and lauded players — Fernando Torres, Xabi Alonso, Steven Gerrard — could be incorporated in a sustainable challenge for the trophies to which history seemed to entitle the club, everything was fine. The dream was lived.

Then it was discovered that the new stadium promised by Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr was a myth: Liverpool could not even afford the proverbial spade.

Pretty much all the difficulty that Liverpool and their supporters have experienced lately can be traced back to sums that don’t add up. When I asked whom they would like to replace Roy Hodgson during one of the manager’s umpteen crises in seven months — it’s been quite a redefinition of the phrase “a fair chance” — quite a few fans got all sniffy about José Mourinho, expressing aversion to his attitude or style of play. So they were never going to accept Hodgson.

This week, as the list of Hodgson’s crimes against humanity mounted, he was accused of having replaced Javier Mascherano with Christian Poulsen, as if the Argentinian could have been persuaded to forsake Barcelona. He was scorned for inflicting Paul Konchesky on the Kop, as if a Paolo Maldini or Roberto Carlos would have gratefully accepted the former Fulham left back’s wages.

It is all too reminiscent of Francis Lee’s remark about the salary expectations of an underachieving Manchester City squad: “Their trouble is that they’ve got Frank Sinatra tastes and Frank Ifield voices.”

No slight is intended on Ifield — or my friend Hodgson. But an alarming proportion of Liverpool supporters do want to fly to the Moon for a Mersey-ferry fare. And the new fans — those who have probably never seen a Liverpool captain brandish an English championship trophy — have expectations as high as, if not higher than, those who know what they are talking about.

This is not to deny that Liverpool are a special club or to pretend that there was not a distinct pleasure in the Rafael Benítez years of contesting Champions League finals with AC Milan. The red shirts seemed to belong on those occasions, Jamie Carragher’s heroics in 2005 being just as memorable as Maldini’s redemption two years later. But if time and tide waited for every man, Stade Reims would be regular participants in Champions League finals, too.

Which brings us neatly to the Frenchman who has given Liverpool hope of remaining special. Without Michel Platini and the reform of the Uefa club licensing system known as Financial Fair Play, Liverpool might still be in the despairing hands of Hicks and Gillett. John W. Henry and Tom Werner, the new owners, made that clear when they took over.

Progress on the regulations, due to be operational from the 2013-14 season, is to be reported by Platini, the Uefa president, and Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, the chairman of the European Club Association, on Tuesday. They are popular with owners because, by encouraging clubs to break even or run at a limited loss, they should halt the rampant inflation in player salaries and transfer fees caused by clubs such as Manchester City, and before them Chelsea, acquiring sugar daddies.

No longer do you hear that they are a fiendish plot by the likes of Platini and Rummenigge, a Franco-German alliance bent on curbing English power in Europe; that was fanciful. Indeed, the Premier League is taking a constructive part in their design.
But it is still legitimately argued that Uefa must be careful not to enshrine the prominence of traditionally strong clubs: Spain’s big two, for instance, and Manchester United, with their large stadium and earning potential. There must be room to grow and challenge the established order, as Chelsea have done in England.

There must also be, however, an incentive for responsible owners to try to revive great institutions in danger of failing and there could be no better example of this than Liverpool if Henry and Werner succeed in exploiting the club’s support, without whose scale and loyalty they would hardly have bothered crossing the Atlantic, Financial Fair Play or not.

The status quo was never an option. Inflation was tempting clubs with heritage-based ambition, such as Aston Villa and Everton, towards the debt-rutted road on which Leeds United nearly foundered. Something had to be done and Platini did it.

There is a fear of devil in the detail, a worry — exacerbated by Platini’s recent reference to “threats on various fronts” — that big clubs faced by a more level playing field might lead a breakaway from Uefa. But even this has receded, so better times may lie ahead for all, Liverpool now included.

[-V-]

NESV have decided to get rid of roy. The only reason he hasnt been fired already is that we dont have anyone else lined up yet who has the experience of handling such a big club, with huge pressures and expectations and with a seriously alienated dressing room.

there was some truth in the shaggy's post which was copied from rawk. Damien comolli has been pushing didier deschamps but he's reluctant to leave mid season. They dont want to give it to kenny because he is seen as a last resort. Owen coyle has also been mentioned.

We wont get someone like mourinho or a stellar name. they want low profile but high promise.

My personal take on the kenny thing is that NESV dont want give kenny the job because if results improve dramatically, there is no way the fans would accept another manager being brought in.

They want a young manager with new ideas, a willingness to take on advice from them and their advisors (ie comolli) combined with experience of the english league (not necessarily managing) but experience of managing a champions league team.

Rangnick is available for the moment but im not sure if he would consider a short term appointment especially when theyve got deschamps lined up in the summer.

Rangnick aside this is a good post. Its pretty obvious that all the top coaches are challenging for titles at their respective clubs and you can't expect them to quit mid-season to come manage a club they have no links to. Therefore until the summer we are snookered. NESV obviously wanted to replace Roy in the summer and didn't want significant turmoil at this stage so thats making them extra reluctant. Im sure they are assessing it game by game, I can only assume they will pull the trigger after the Man Utd game if we lose yet again. One last chance for Hodgson to get a reaction from the players

Also NESV will want a sell-out for the derby so they probably think that a change of management just prior to the derby will spark the fans and the club

[Fredo]

Barclay has an axe to grind.

[Tee]

Barclay has an axe to grind.

I would love to grind an axe on his head.

[CJ]

he completely misses the point.

no i am not angry that we replaced masch with poulsen. I am just angry we got poulsen. I would be angry if we replaced ivan kozma with him

pfk well i didnt expect lahm or cole or whoever but sorry buying him was a waste of money. not a good use of those wages

he is just bitter because he isnt any star trek films any more

[Rigadon]

Patrick Barclay - total cunt.

Liverpool may have their saviour in Platini

Patrick Barclay Chief Football Commentator
January 7 2011 8:19PM

While Liverpool were imagining that some of the world’s most successful and lauded players — Fernando Torres, Xabi Alonso, Steven Gerrard — could be incorporated in a sustainable challenge for the trophies to which history seemed to entitle the club, everything was fine. The dream was lived.

Then it was discovered that the new stadium promised by Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr was a myth: Liverpool could not even afford the proverbial spade.

Pretty much all the difficulty that Liverpool and their supporters have experienced lately can be traced back to sums that don’t add up. When I asked whom they would like to replace Roy Hodgson during one of the manager’s umpteen crises in seven months — it’s been quite a redefinition of the phrase “a fair chance” — quite a few fans got all sniffy about José Mourinho, expressing aversion to his attitude or style of play. So they were never going to accept Hodgson.

This week, as the list of Hodgson’s crimes against humanity mounted, he was accused of having replaced Javier Mascherano with Christian Poulsen, as if the Argentinian could have been persuaded to forsake Barcelona. He was scorned for inflicting Paul Konchesky on the Kop, as if a Paolo Maldini or Roberto Carlos would have gratefully accepted the former Fulham left back’s wages.

It is all too reminiscent of Francis Lee’s remark about the salary expectations of an underachieving Manchester City squad: “Their trouble is that they’ve got Frank Sinatra tastes and Frank Ifield voices.”

No slight is intended on Ifield — or my friend Hodgson... .