Daniel Agger

[Arn]

Rather have a pair that compliment each other and provide a combination of all things needed for a defender - so a classy ball playing CB, and an aggressive beast of a CB - for me, that makes a good pair.

Maybe Carra or Skrtel should let the hair grow a year or so until they think they are Puyol. Problem solved.

[red g]

Rather have a pair that compliment each other and provide a combination of all things needed for a defender - so a classy ball playing CB, and an aggressive beast of a CB - for me, that makes a good pair.

I thought we had that in Skrtel and Agger. Well amybe we did for a short while.

Lump passed to classy, not 2 ponce's playing it out of defence although I would prefer it to our current set up of 2 neanderthals hoofing it 40 ywards up front

[Craig_H]

Being a poor defender isn't the same as making individual cock ups. He's not that good in the air, slowish and struggles with stronger attackers.

So you couldnt think of any examples then.

Surely, if someone is a poor defender, he makes mistakes...no?

Put it this way, if Agger doesnt make enough mistakes for you to remember, how bad can he really be?

But even by your logic that suggests someone can be poor, but not make many mistakes - well, i'll happily take a so-called '**** defender' who doesnt make mistakes any day of the week*.

* - yes, the two are mutually exclusive - a defender who doesnt make many mistakes, is a good defender.

Furthermore, as a Europa League club (for now) with a **** manager and no real chance of CL football next season, which CB do you suggest we buy, who is quick, good in the air, can deal with stronger attackers, doesnt make mistakes and has the right positional sense, 'body on the line' defensive mentality and all-round solidity of a top CB?

I'm all ears.

[fah-q]

I can think of one maybe two errors he's made but that just goes to show that its a handful in all the time he's been here.

I think he is a good defender and the perfect balance with a more rugged partner.

[Mostar]

He is the best CB we have and when fit he should play non-stop.

There is a reason why Milan, Inter, Arsenal and Tottenham were just some of the clubs interested in his services.

[ronanm]

He's no crock but he ain't no rock

[ronanm]

He is the best CB we have and when fit he should play non-stop.

There is a reason why Milan, Inter, Arsenal and Tottenham were just some of the clubs interested in his services.

Barca are our peers, not that ensemble.

[ronanm]

Spot on.

Having CBs who can play means you keep the ball far more, which helps you control the game - you build attacks, you reduce the level of pressure the team is under significantly and you're less likely to see mistakes at the back, due to mis-control or random panic-led hoofing.

But is he a ball playong defender or defender first? Think it should be the other way round (as with Gwendolyn "must protect the hair at any cost" Johnson).

[Mostar]

Barca are our peers, not that ensemble.

You wish.

Other 4 are all playing CL football and definitely doing better in Serie A and PL respectively.

[ronanm]

You wish.

Other 4 are all playing CL football and definitely doing better in Serie A and PL respectively.

Well, if we're talking at this moment, maybe. But ordinarily, they ain't up to much. Watch the Goons and Spurs lose this weekend.

[ronanm]

Need to be in work at 9, better go to bed. Night all

[Norbs]

I can think of one maybe two errors he's made but that just goes to show that its a handful in all the time he's been here.

I think he is a good defender and the perfect balance with a more rugged partner.

[Red_Polo]

FLMAO Norbert

[banditos]

Barca are our peers, not that ensemble.

Barca our peers. That's wishful thinking. At the moment they're miles ahead of us on and off the field, with the exception of the number of European Cups in their cabinet. A case could be made that most of the other teams on that list are ahead of us at present too.

[ronanm]

Barca our peers. That's wishful thinking. At the moment they're miles ahead of us on and off the field, with the exception of the number of European Cups in their cabinet. A case could be made that most of the other teams on that list are ahead of us at present too.

Peers i.e. something we should aspire too - not someone who's at the same level than us.