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    Let's hope BR can get the best out of him. Now or never.
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      has he pushed on?

      you would like to think that he would fit in the style we are looking at

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        That's the thing I don't really know. Did anyone see much of him wherever it was he was on loan last season?

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          Originally posted by Reece View Post
          That's the thing I don't really know. Did anyone see much of him wherever it was he was on loan last season?
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            Originally posted by Reece View Post
            That's the thing I don't really know. Did anyone see much of him wherever it was he was on loan last season?
            i didnt know either.

            i know we raved about him and there was then a perception he wasnt pushing on as expected. then it all went a bit quiet.

            You would hope that BR at least wants to see him.

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              How did that loan work anyway? Didn't we loan him to Atletico who then loaned him out themselves to Rayo Vallecano?

              Didn't think they could do that?

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                I think he has played as well as anyone in the two pre-season games and seemed to be a catalyst in making things happen. On paper with his background, he appears to be a good fit for Rodger's style, further with the proposed 4-3-3 formation he finally has formation that suits his style.

                Does anyone believe he can turn it around and live up to some of his early career hype?

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                  Yep, I think he can genuinely make an impact in the first team squad this season. He is an unknown quantity to most PL defenders and could do some damage playing out wide left. More damage than Downing could ever dream of.
                  "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                    Originally posted by Tee View Post
                    Yep, I think he can genuinely make an impact in the first team squad this season. He is an unknown quantity to most PL defenders and could do some damage playing out wide left. More damage than Downing could ever dream of.
                    The problem with Pacheco is he lacks an end product -he always has and in 3/4 years of being at the club, he has not shown any improvement in that area. He has looked very good so far but he is lacking that one thing which is vital to player who plays in his position.

                    Don't even bother mentioning Downing - he is just gutless, hopeless and probably lannless
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                      Originally posted by saj View Post
                      The problem with Pacheco is he lacks an end product -he always has and in 3/4 years of being at the club, he has not shown any improvement in that area. He has looked very good so far but he is lacking that one thing which is vital to player who plays in his position.

                      Don't even bother mentioning Downing - he is just gutless, hopeless and probably lannless
                      "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                        Originally posted by Tee View Post
                        That picture is gonna go down in history. His general play on the pitch is as good as the look on his face
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                          Originally posted by saj View Post
                          The problem with Pacheco is he lacks an end product
                          It was only pre-season but he did have an assist last night, feinted like he was only making space to shoot and laying a lovely ball to Adam. Interesting to see how he performs on Saturday when hopefully playing with forwards with better movement.

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                            Its hard to judge pacheco on pre-season form. It will be seeing him in competitive games where we really see if hes good enough. I'm not sure he can cut it at that level but I really hope he proves me wrong.

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                              that was no feint from pacheco. he wanted to shoot that, but his first touch left the ball too close to his body.
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                                Originally posted by saj View Post
                                The problem with Pacheco is he lacks an end product -he always has and in 3/4 years of being at the club, he has not shown any improvement in that area. He has looked very good so far but he is lacking that one thing which is vital to player who plays in his position.

                                Don't even bother mentioning Downing - he is just gutless, hopeless and probably lannless
                                Pacheco had pretty good pre-season so far but he will have very difficult task of breaking and staying in the first team squad.

                                Encouraged by his recent performances but due to that very same reason I don't see him having a future with us.

                                I expect to see us to loan him out again and the concern will be again if we can find him a club that will feature him and play him as that really didn't happen for almost 2 years in a row.
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