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    #46
    Originally posted by Arn View Post
    Do you see Carra praising Rafa in the same way? You know, he deserves a lot of praise from Carra but almost all the time it someone else that should get the praise and not Rafa.

    Both of them achieved good things and both of them deserves a lot of praise but Carra isn't exactly acting in a fair way when he compares them.
    Once again you're picking up on what someone hasn't said and using that as evidence of their state of mind.

    For what it's worth I've thought for a long time that Carragher's attitude towards Benitez was lukewarm at best. I'm simply saying that you're overdoing it on this occasion (and on many others to be honest ) because of your strong feelings on the subject and that you might find it useful to question your interpretation... I hope you don't mind.

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    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



    May the Lord bless this post.

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      #47
      Carra just comes across as a massive cock nowadays. Pathetic.
      3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Arn View Post
        Do you see Carra praising Rafa in the same way? You know, he deserves a lot of praise from Carra but almost all the time it someone else that should get the praise and not Rafa.

        Both of them achieved good things and both of them deserves a lot of praise but Carra isn't exactly acting in a fair way when he compares them.
        Carra's attitutde towards Rafa may have a lot to do with the fact that Rafa (allegedly) refused to sanction the contract extension Carra just received.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Arn View Post
          Can't agree with this. Houllier didn't develop Carra as a player. It was only when Rafa moved him into the middle of the defence that he started to develop.

          Houllier improved his mentality but not as a player.

          He would probably been shipped out if it wasn't for Rafa. Carra was in and out of the team and played either on the left or right.

          Rafa played him as a starting XI player. Houllier used him as a squad player.
          Carragher has been a regular throughout the Houllier and Benitez eras, it's true that under Houllier he was moved around from position to position but he was almost always first choice in one position or another.

          In 98-99 (before Hyypia and Henchoz) he was a regular at centre back then he moved to right back in 99-00. Then when we signed Markus Babbel he moved to left back 00-01. When Babbel got injured and we bought Riise he moved to right back. Then was moved to centre back when Henchoz was past it at the end of Houllier's reign.

          Undoubtedly Rafa improved him as a player, but I don't think there was ever a significant period of time (i.e. for than a few games) were he wasn't in the team. Aside from the season where he broke his leg he's played 40+ games every season since 1998.
          Last edited by Exiled_red; 04-12-10, 03:55 PM.
          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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            #50
            Some over reactions here, just Carra's opinion. We all have them no big deal, seems he has lot of respect for Houllier, fair play to him. I don't anything wrong with what he said.

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              #51
              Why does everyone make it Houllier v Benitez?

              Both men gave their all for the club and I thank them both for some of the good times they brought. It turned sour for both and it was largely both of their own doings.

              Yes, both could have been funded better, but the final signings they made were the death knell for both. Such a shame as both were on the verge of greatness.
              Forwards.......

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                #52
                Christian Ziege disagrees

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                  Why does everyone make it Houllier v Benitez?

                  Both men gave their all for the club and I thank them both for some of the good times they brought. It turned sour for both and it was largely both of their own doings.

                  Yes, both could have been funded better, but the final signings they made were the death knell for both. Such a shame as both were on the verge of greatness.

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                    #54
                    Houllier was ok, Benitez a little bit better but sadly when we needed to up ourselves to a world class manager in came the Hodge

                    But you can't get a world class manager when you have a board in chaos. So as soon we now get our top guy the good times will be back

                    And Carra as many other footballers ought to shut their gobs and do their talking on the pitch. End of...
                    "Justice has been done."

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                      #55
                      Think Carragher is just emphasising Houllier's acheivements. Had we signed Anelka..
                      Substance > Style

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                        #56
                        Another pro Rafa thread It's the mans opinion FFS

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                          Why does everyone make it Houllier v Benitez?

                          Both men gave their all for the club and I thank them both for some of the good times they brought. It turned sour for both and it was largely both of their own doings.

                          Yes, both could have been funded better, but the final signings they made were the death knell for both. Such a shame as both were on the verge of greatness.
                          Benitez is a better manager and would have won us the league under decent owners.

                          Houllier is Roy Hodgson who wins more often.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
                            Benitez is a better manager and would have won us the league under decent owners.

                            Houllier is Roy Hodgson who wins more often.
                            They both had their moments but overall were equally ****e and played boring football for the most part.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Bulld0g View Post
                              They both had their moments but overall were equally ****e and played boring football for the most part.
                              Benitez is a top manager. Our football in the second half of the 08-09 season was the best in the country. **** football isn't part of Rafa's philosophy, yet that same **** football was Houllier's main ingredient for winning.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
                                **** football isn't part of Rafa's philosophy.
                                Did you actually watch Liverpool under Benitez at all ?
                                They bored the arse off me week in week out

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