Nesv

[Craig_H]

I dont think i'd have the will to watch a game where i had no idea who any of the players were and had no interest in the outcome.

[Fierce]

The 08-09 season in the league when Gerrard played from the start.

21 wins
7 draws
2 losses

When he didn't play from the start...

4 wins
4 draws
0 losses


The 09-10 season when Gerrard played from the start....

16 wins
7 draws
9 losses

When he didn't play from the start....

2 wins
2 draws
2 losses

Yeah so based on last season's stats, we were far better when SG started.

[GTi]

This "Question Time" type thingy, is it on the Sky TV channel or just online? 5-7pm?

[wildman]

keeping gerard is our top priority above all else. he is the life soul and heartbeat of our club. NESV do need to get rid of roy. and they almost definately do need to invest and invest heavily in January. long term success is the goal but short term we need to invest in players capable of getting us top 4 or we are snookered.

carra is replaceable and so is torres to an extent. but gerard, without him we are half the team. while he is still the best player at our club we should be building around him and hopefully NESV realise this.

Gerrards days are numbered the days of those performances of where he used to piss all over everyone are gone, if anyone is irreplacable its reina & torres (although not on current form)

People really need to give NESV a break, if you want a club to be run properly you have got to give them time, by sacking hodgson potentially the situation could be made worse.

I get the distinct impression all people want is an owner like citys, they just wont admit it, its not going to happen though.

[andrewces38]

This "Question Time" type thingy, is it on the Sky TV channel or just online? 5-7pm?

According to the TV guide LFC now is on from 5-7 and that's usually a 15 minute programme so I would guess it's the live phone in

[GTi]

According to the TV guide LFC now is on from 5-7 and that's usually a 15 minute programme so I would guess it's the live phone in

Thanks mate, should be worth watching.

[Arn]

Our stats without Gerrard the seasons 08-09 and 09-10 is 6 wins 6 draws and 2 losses.

We only lost two out of 14 games without him. Gerrard is an excellent player but he isn't a must anymore in the starting XI. We can cope without him without any problem.

We of course only won six out of fourteen but to say that we can't cope without him is wrong. The last season and a half we played better as a team without him. Other players take more responsibility and is allowed to do it.

[samuelcharles]

the problem is;

1. Roy is not the man to even try to entice better quality of player that a football club needs, its as simple as that.
2. We have started a new cycle of the clubs history and still nothing's changed. what are the board and the whole club waiting for?
3. Do they really think that roy is the right road to go down? we need tos top making excuses and go and attack better player with a aggressive positive attiude, we need to start all over again and get this" the jan window is a bad time to buy" crap out of our heads, thats total rubbish that, there are plenty of players looking for moves, their are club that are having to sell too...

4, we need to a get a manager in and now, and what will the club or owners say,,, that most managers are in contract, so what, go and get what and how we want and be progressive about it, and if they have to pay then so be it, the new owners have spent nearly 200 million uk pounds sterling on new players for their other club(red sox).

5, the fans have had enough with the latest takover sage running for ages,, fans are paying out to watch ****e players brought in buy roy, for god sake, im better than konchesky poulsen, and not buying a striker yet again!!!

when is enough enough....

reina has asked for investment so has torres and so has carragher,, do you really think we do not need around 4-5 top quality proven young good players with big game mentality.

bring in either pellegrini with packo the old fitness coach back alongside him.
or the atletico boss quique sanchez Flores with king as coach.

then buy players like mata, bastos, coentrao banega llorente, suraez and do not even think about ****e players like ****ing carlton cole???

[RichC]

Our stats without Gerrard the seasons 08-09 and 09-10 is 6 wins 6 draws and 2 losses.

We only lost two out of 14 games without him. Gerrard is an excellent player but he isn't a must anymore in the starting XI. We can cope without him without any problem.

We of course only won six out of fourteen but to say that we can't cope without him is wrong. The last season and a half we played better as a team without him. Other players take more responsibility and is allowed to do it.

And who would you play in his place then? We didn't cope without him too well against Newcastle at the weekend did we!

I think as per usual you have your Rafa blinkers on and anyone and anything you associate as to why he's not managing us anymore is the problem.

The real issue is having a guy in charge that is utterly out of his depth, I've been thinking about this - Rafa massively disappointed me because he under-acheived in his last season, we know and he knows it but with Roy I've now accepted it as the standard we'll produce under him - mid-table, poor football and until that changes it's what we'll be getting.

Get Gerrard & co under the right manager for the remaining season and let's see if your point about him not being a must for the starting XI holds up

[Craig_H]

Our stats without Gerrard the seasons 08-09 and 09-10 is 6 wins 6 draws and 2 losses.

We only lost two out of 14 games without him. Gerrard is an excellent player but he isn't a must anymore in the starting XI. We can cope without him without any problem.

We of course only won six out of fourteen but to say that we can't cope without him is wrong. The last season and a half we played better as a team without him. Other players take more responsibility and is allowed to do it.

You should go into the tripe industry.

[Buzzo]

Our stats without Gerrard the seasons 08-09 and 09-10 is 6 wins 6 draws and 2 losses.

We only lost two out of 14 games without him. Gerrard is an excellent player but he isn't a must anymore in the starting XI. We can cope without him without any problem.

We of course only won six out of fourteen but to say that we can't cope without him is wrong. The last season and a half we played better as a team without him. Other players take more responsibility and is allowed to do it.

Hmm.

I really don't think Gerrard is the big problem at the moment. We are ****e without him, getting beaten every other week.

The one thing that seems to be crippling us on the pitch is not in fact Steven Gerrard. It is the elderly suited gent on the touchlines who you will frequently see doing lots of weird face rubbing, hand movements and other random gesticulations.

[saj]

Ha ha - people are now saying we don't need Gerrard: that's comedy gold. People are saying the same about Carragher - oh look he didn't play on Saturday and how many defensive mistakes were there: 3. That could be coincidence but when was the last time we made 3 defensive mistakes in a game?

[Leyton388]

Ha ha - Idiots are now saying we don't need Gerrard: that's comedy gold. People are saying the same about Carragher - oh look he didn't play on Saturday and how many defensive mistakes were there: 3. That could be coincidence but when was the last time we made 3 defensive mistakes in a game?

Fixed

[barnes10]

Ha ha - people are now saying we don't need Gerrard: that's comedy gold. People are saying the same about Carragher - oh look he didn't play on Saturday and how many defensive mistakes were there: 3. That could be coincidence but when was the last time we made 3 defensive mistakes in a game?

I think saying gerrard is past it now is out of order and basically pretty stupid. He's not the same player I dont think - he does look older and slower which is natural given age and injuries. so therefore he needs to be used slightly differently.

I do think he needs to be supported better so the creativity and leadership comes from others - but that's always been the case.

carragher on the other hand I genuinely feel is well into a downward slope. We need to replace him with a leader at the back, an organiser and a ball player. that'd be an upgrade on him tbh but its someone we need in sooner rather than later.

I think we've seen gerrard and carragher want hodgson/houllier tactics back so that they can both prolong their careers as they get slower. A deeper defensive line means carragher's lack of pace isnt exposed and gerrard sitting in the middle spraying it around takes the onus from his high energy, high impact style that will now start to wane. Clearly Rafa's tactics and style will burn them both out quicker which neither wants. Well tough really, we're bigger than 2 players no matter who they are. thats simply the way I see it so don't shoot me for that. Eternally grateful to them both but we need to be able to move on when a top manager thinks the time is right. not when they feel like it. thats a fact of life at a big club.

[Tee]

Ha ha - people are now saying we don't need Gerrard: that's comedy gold.

Laughable to suggest we are better off without him.