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    #16
    Wha? Hogdson gone Daglish in? Am I dreaming?

    I don't think i can quite accept it's possible?

    But ****ing yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

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      #17
      Looking back at how we played all those years ago. 4-4-1-1, pressing, passing and moving.

      Team that I can remember.

      ************** Grobbelaar **************

      Nicol ***** Ablett ***** Hansen **** Staunton

      Houghton *** Whelan *** McMahon *** Barnes

      ************** Beardsley ***************

      ************** Rush/Aldridge*************

      I'll offer a modern day equivalent. What we are missing is a bombing winger like Barnes, unless Kenny can be the one person to be able to get the best out of Babel. I think N'Zogbia would give that dimension to the team.

      ************** Pepe **************

      Kelly **** Skrtel **** Agger ***** Aurellio

      Dirk/Cole ***** Lucas/Gerrard **** Meirelles **** Babel

      ************** Gerrard/Cole **************

      ************** Torres ***************
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        #18
        I posted this in the other thread, so apologies for the duplication, but I reckon he'll play some variation of 4-4-1-1 with Gerrard off Torres (he's commented before on how highly he rates the partnership) and Lucas / Meireles in the middle.

        As Lecter said, we don't really have the wide players for 4 across the middle - wide is probably the weakest area of our squad and for that reason I can really see a winger being a priority for this transfer window. Dalglish's greatest ever signing (in my opinion anyway) has to be Barnes. He knows what a difference a world class winger can make to a side.

        As far as playing style goes, we know he is a proponent of attacking football. And he certainly will not stand for players not giving 110% on the pitch.

        I really think (and hope to god!) that we'll see a big improvement in our play under him. There is no more room for players to hide now.
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          #19
          Originally posted by Lecter View Post
          Dalglish's sides were the most attacking Liverpool sides of those great 70's & 80's sides

          Paisley built an absolute crushing machine that just rolled over teams but Kennys were very offensive teams (barring his double team)

          I would guess that his tactics will be similar to the double season because he doesnt have the players to play his expansive game he played from 87 onwards
          Originally posted by Lecter View Post
          He doesnt have the players to play a straight 4 across midfield

          IF he signs some wide players in January that might change
          Thanks Lecter. I have read people saying he wasn't really tactically astute. Is this a true reflection? Also, I know you more than most have talked about the lack of pressing under Hodgson, what was it like under Dalglish and would you expect this element of our game to return. I know one or two have said we didn't adopt a pressing game under Dalglish.
          Last edited by marcus50bucks; 08-01-11, 02:14 PM.

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            #20
            Originally posted by RedReet View Post
            Should be guest of honor against Everton, give him a chance to get the sendoff and thanks that he deserved and should have received. Would also allow a lot of grieving fans to get over the past and look forward to the future.
            Great post - that would be awesome
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              #21
              Originally posted by Lecter View Post
              He doesnt have the players to play a straight 4 across midfield

              IF he signs some wide players in January that might change
              We only really ever had Barnes as a real winger. Ray Houghton and Vension often played on the right. I think Dirk and Cole would do what Houghton did.

              How do you find an equivalent to Barnes? N'Zogbia wouldn't be a bad start.
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                #22
                It will probably be Rafa's tactics used by a much better man manager.

                Dalglish simply don't have the time to start all over again with a completely new tactic. The players know Rafa's system so it would be the most logical step if King Kenny used that. Our youth and reserve teams also play the same system so it would be easier for Kenny to use our young players if he played a system they know.

                If we had been in a healthier position in the league then he would have the time to learn the players his system.
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by marcus50bucks View Post
                  I'm hoping people who were old enough to remember Dalglish's time as manager here will provide an insight into his style of football. My knowledge is limited as I was too young to remember.
                  Under Kenny attack was our best form of defebnce, we used to pin teams back with our attacking play. Importantly we also had defenders who were comfortable on the ball.

                  I remember at the time the Villa manager called us the best team in the world, unfortunately we never got a chance to prove it due to the european ban.

                  Of course in them days we usually got to buy our no. 1 transfer tragets (Barnes, Beardsley & Aldridge etc.) so that made playing that attacking style of football easier.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by billy_mac View Post
                    We only really ever had Barnes as a real winger. Ray Houghton and Vension often played on the right. I think Dirk and Cole would do what Houghton did.

                    How do you find an equivalent to Barnes? N'Zogbia wouldn't be a bad start.
                    N'Zogbia would be a better alternative to Riera, but it just sounds ridiculous mentioning him in the same sentence as Barnes!

                    We need the balance on the left again, as has been said before, Riera was limited but at least he gave us that when he played.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by marcus50bucks View Post
                      Thanks Lecter. I have read people saying he wasn't really tactically astute. Is this a true reflection? Also, I know you more than most have talked about the lack of pressing under Hodgson, what was it like under Dalglish and would you expect this element of our game to return. I know one or two have said we didn't adopt a pressing game under Dalglish.
                      I'm not sure he often needed to be due to the fact we generally kept the ball and dictated play.

                      Then again, I had the impression that the team didn't do a lot of tactical work after hearing some comment he had made about corner kicks when interviewed after a game we had lost.

                      On the other hand I guess the general level of tactical input has increased across all top level football in the last 20 years.

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                        #26
                        The training has got to change, with more emphasis on playing actual football.

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                          #27
                          [QUOTE=Daniel Torres;1837833]Absolutely. We had the best left winger in world football at the time who would score 20 goals a season, we had an amazing clinical finisher in Aldridge, and the best number 7 since Kenny (and the last great number 7 we've had) in Beardsley. Our first 11 couldn't hold a candle to that team.

                          What we also had was the hardest working finisher in Rush. We really defended from the front in those days. Torres is going to get a wake up call that is for sure. Rush was unreal, he's hard work never took away from his goal scoring.
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                            #28
                            I would be very interested in seeing Glenn Johnson playing right mid.

                            1 thing (of many) which was disappointing with Roy was he didn't ever seem to think outside the box and try and change things. We have a lot of players who can play in more than one position so hopefully Kenny isn't too scared to mix it up a bit.

                            Dirk/Gerrard playing off Torres, Johnson or Gerrard on the Right etc.
                            Modifying post.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by billy_mac View Post
                              Looking back at how we played all those years ago. 4-4-1-1, pressing, passing and moving.

                              Team that I can remember.

                              ************** Grobbelaar **************

                              Nicol ***** Ablett ***** Hansen **** Staunton

                              Houghton *** Whelan *** McMahon *** Barnes

                              ************** Beardsley ***************

                              ************** Rush/Aldridge*************

                              I'll offer a modern day equivalent. What we are missing is a bombing winger like Barnes, unless Kenny can be the one person to be able to get the best out of Babel. I think N'Zogbia would give that dimension to the team.

                              ************** Pepe **************

                              Kelly **** Skrtel **** Agger ***** Aurellio

                              Dirk/Cole ***** Lucas/Gerrard **** Meirelles **** Babel

                              ************** Gerrard/Cole **************

                              ************** Torres ***************
                              Glen Hysen was at the back in our last title-winning team.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Cormack74 View Post
                                I'm not sure he often needed to be due to the fact we generally kept the ball and dictated play.

                                Then again, I had the impression that the team didn't do a lot of tactical work after hearing some comment he had made about corner kicks when interviewed after a game we had lost.

                                On the other hand I guess the general level of tactical input has increased across all top level football in the last 20 years.

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