Hodgson: I was so unlucky

[badpiggy]

WTF is Carragher on about?



So ****ing what?

****in hell Carra - just shut the **** up. Legend etc but I wish we could skip ahead to the time where he has been successfully replaced so that his now seemingly inevitable unpleasant end can be forgotten asap.

[CJ]

i believed at the time (and still do) that they were only able to sack rafa becuase of where we finished. He was not fired becasue of where we finished. If that makes sense.

and Roy wasnt as unlucky as we were having him as manager.

[RichC]

i believed at the time (and still do) that they were only able to sack rafa becuase of where we finished. He was not fired becasue of where we finished. If that makes sense.

and Roy wasnt as unlucky as we were having him as manager.

the guarantee he gave sealed his fate as the club used it as the excuse to remove him.

[Arn]

WTF is Carragher on about?



So ****ing what?

Only another proof that he had a hand in the sacking of Rafa. If someone asked me then he should be benched or sold and never play for the club again.

[Arn]

We will never challenge the top four with Carra playing more often than not. He is past it and simply not good enough.

We can laugh about players like Brown or Evans playing for Man U but they are at least as good as Carra. That says it all really.

We need to replace him as soon as possible to be able to move forward.

[Drago]

We will never challenge the top four with Carra playing more often than not. He is past it and simply not good enough.

We can laugh about players like Brown or Evans playing for Man U but they are at least as good as Carra. That says it all really.

We need to replace him as soon as possible to be able to move forward.

Valid point.

Only another proof that he had a hand in the sacking of Rafa. If someone asked me then he should be benched or sold and never play for the club again.

Speculative bollocks.

See the difference.

[Rudo]

deluded old fool....as for cara i think he needs to keep his mouth shut ....bit too media friendly

you should edit the title to Hodgson: I was so so so unlucky

You defo have a point there.

Carragher for me tries to be too honest and plays up to his 'say it as i see it' reputation, when really he should keep it shut.

[cream]

It's pretty clear that certain individuals and players conspired against Rafa throughout last season. That is disgusting behavior and in my eyes, unforgivable. Those individuals shouldn't be involved with the club no more.

[Arn]

It's pretty clear that certain individuals and players conspired against Rafa throughout last season. That is disgusting behavior and in my eyes, unforgivable. Those individuals shouldn't be involved with the club no more.

Johnson even said that a few players only gave 55%-60% last season. You don't need to be a genius to figure out that our Captain was one of them.

"I felt very strongly that Liverpool needed someone who could go into that dressing room and give them a kick up the arse - Kenny is one of the few people in the world who could," Johnston said.

"You have to understand that Kenny is a very unique human being. He was always gruff and to the point, even caustic, and still is. Maybe in some ways he has mellowed, simply because he had to - the heart issues and the memory of the stress he suffered around [the] Hillsbrough [stadium disaster in 1989] had that effect on him. But fundamentally he´s still the same guy and the same personality." .

Mention of Shankly, the incomparable Scot who built the Liverpool legend in the ´60s from a team of second division strugglers, demonstrates the challenge facing Dalglish. Other than the club´s recent and despised American owners, Johnston has no doubt where the malaise lies.

"Frankly the players, or some of them, have been giving 55 per cent, 60 per cent," he said. "How can the same squad, with the loss of Xabi Alonso, that came second in the EPL two years ago be so far off the pace now?

"It´s clear a lot of the players have not been giving 100 per cent and needed some old-fashioned management - someone who knew the club, knew the fans and what was acceptable. How can you go backwards so far as a squad and still be giving 100 per cent?

"Now the players know they will be exposed because he´s the kind of bloke who will if they won´t give everything.

"From his first game in charge you could see the difference in attitude."

Johnston also has no doubt that Dalglish can oversee a renaissance in the long term, especially with the appointment of Steve Clarke - No. 2 to Jose Mourinho at Chelsea when they won two EPL titles - to the coaching staff.

[Mostar]

Bugs me how Hodgson talks triumphantly about his prediction of us coming "7th or 8th" - a) as though it has anything to do with him, and b) he got the ****ing job cos his predecessor was sacked for coming 7th. He talks of it like an achievement, and besides we never got near the dizzy heights of 7th under his diabolical management. He's such a prick.

Not me. His sick and delusional ego needs self-created fiction of the success as otherwise he would need to conclude what we already know. He is a ****ty manager and never good enough to even walk through the door of the club of our magnitude and that is the fact whether he wants to admit it or not.

[Rich]

Kenny has heart issues?!

[Arn]

Some people will of course defend Carra and Gerrard no matter how much proof you present infront of them just because they are Carra and Gerrard.

Gerrard had this choice to make. Back Rafa and his good friend Carra would be a bit part player this season and would be playing his last season for us or back Carra getting rid of Rafa and by that way give Carra the chance to stay and play in almost every game, IMO.

I wonder what choice he made?

[Exiled_red]

Perhaps Roy was unlucky at times, the game goes that way; sometimes you get good luck sometimes you get bad luck. IMO we had no more bad luck under Hodgson than we have had under Rafa or Kenny. The reason we did so badly under Hodgson was down to his **** tactics and the way he set the team up to play IIRC he got 25 points from 20 games, even if you add a tolerence on for some bad luck he still wouldn't have been good enough.

There is nothing to be ashamed of in not being good enough for the Liverpool job, but this constant drivel that he comes out with shows that not only does he not have the ability to be the Liverpool manager, but he doesn't have the class either.

[The_weatherman]

Johnson even said that a few players only gave 55%-60% last season. You don't need to be a genius to figure out that our Captain was one of them.

"I felt very strongly that Liverpool needed someone who could go into that dressing room and give them a kick up the arse - Kenny is one of the few people in the world who could," Johnston said.

"You have to understand that Kenny is a very unique human being. He was always gruff and to the point, even caustic, and still is. Maybe in some ways he has mellowed, simply because he had to - the heart issues and the memory of the stress he suffered around [the] Hillsbrough [stadium disaster in 1989] had that effect on him. But fundamentally he´s still the same guy and the same personality." .

Mention of Shankly, the incomparable Scot who built the Liverpool legend in the ´60s from a team of second division strugglers, demonstrates the challenge facing Dalglish. Other than the club´s recent and despised American owners, Johnston has no doubt where the malaise lies.

"Frankly the players, or some of them, have been giving 55 per cent, 60 per cent," he said. "How can the same squad, with the loss of Xabi Alonso, that came second in the EPL two years ago be so far off the pace now?

"It´s clear a lot of the players have not been giving 100 per cent and needed some old-fashioned management - someone who knew the club, knew the fans and what was acceptable. How can you go backwards so far as a squad and still be giving 100 per cent?

"Now the players know they will be exposed because he´s the kind of bloke who will if they won´t give everything.

"From his first game in charge you could see the difference in attitude."

Johnston also has no doubt that Dalglish can oversee a renaissance in the long term, especially with the appointment of Steve Clarke - No. 2 to Jose Mourinho at Chelsea when they won two EPL titles - to the coaching staff.

Hmmmm.....be careful there Arn. Johnson didn't say this, Johnston did, and I'm not sure if has any inside scoop, he's just saying what he thinks. If Johnson has said that I'd have listened.

That said, I don't wolly disagree with you on this matter.

[saj]

Some people will of course defend Carra and Gerrard no matter how much proof you present infront of them just because they are Carra and Gerrard.

Gerrard had this choice to make. Back Rafa and his good friend Carra would be a bit part player this season and would be playing his last season for us or back Carra getting rid of Rafa and by that way give Carra the chance to stay and play in almost every game, IMO.

I wonder what choice he made?

There is no proof. What you're presenting is forum rumours and opinions.