Hodgson: I was so unlucky

[Lecter]

Can't one of you in the Rafa-sect start a new site where you glorify him all day long?

LOL

Personally I didnt want Rafa sacked

Certainly didnt want to replace him with Roy

But I'm made up we have Kenny and I wouldnt change anything now (ie I wouldnt go back to Rafa)

[Lecter]

I dont think hyypia was a great captain. Actually i think carra would have been a very good captain on the pitch. At the moment i am not sure who would be better than SG as captain. Though i do agree that he is not a great captain either apart from things like istanbul. We would have got the same result with another captain as Gerrard would still have driven the come back.

Hyypia was VERY quiet on the pitch (just like Gerrard use to be - hes improved a bit imo not much though)

Carragher as you say is the vocal one and the organiser (even when Hyypia was capitan he was doing this)

[CJ]

Hyypia was VERY quiet on the pitch (just like Gerrard use to be - hes improved a bit imo not much though)

Carragher as you say is the vocal one and the organiser (even when Hyypia was capitan he was doing this)

yeah I cant think of too many in the side who would be good captains. This is in part due to the fact i think carra has not got long left at the top and shouldnt be an automatic starter.

[Arn]

I dont think hyypia was a great captain. Actually i think carra would have been a very good captain on the pitch. At the moment i am not sure who would be better than SG as captain. Though i do agree that he is not a great captain either apart from things like istanbul. We would have got the same result with another captain as Gerrard would still have driven the come back.

I think that the pressure being Captain of Liverpool FC sometimes makes Gerrard play worse. He want to do everything himself.

Would he play better if he wasn't Captain? Who knows but I believe he would do that. That is a thing we will never get an answer to of course because Gerrard would simply demand a move if he was stripped of the Captaincy IMO.

The pressure isn't the same on a foreign Captain as it is for a local lad. Sometimes you let the heart rule to much instead of your brain. You can't keep your cool.

Take the tackle he made against Man U in the FA Cup this season. He probably only made that because he is our Captain and love the club so much and wanted to prove for KK that he will deliver. The pressure got to him.

[Arn]

We sold our best Captain before the 2009-10 season IMO, Xabi Alonso.

We still haven't replaced the leadership we lost when sold/let go of Xabi and Hyypia.

Xabi was our brain on the pitch and the player that ran the show.

[Glenn Hysen]

LOL

Personally I didnt want Rafa sacked

Certainly didnt want to replace him with Roy

But I'm made up we have Kenny and I wouldnt change anything now (ie I wouldnt go back to Rafa)

[Lecter]

He want to do everything himself.

Two things about this

1) I genuinely think that is the type of player that he is. He always wants to do everything himself

2) Hes very rarely had a good enough supporting cast so that if he didnt want to do it all himself he could let others do it

[CJ]

Two things about this

1) I genuinely think that is the type of player that he is. He always wants to do everything himself

2) Hes very rarely had a good enough supporting cast so that if he didnt want to do it all himself he could let others do it

again i agree, I think Gerrard would still play like that. If it did make a difference i would think it would be a small one.

I did think about Xabi as captain but then i think was he vocal enough. It might be more to do with what i think a captain should do rather than a reflection of the abilities of the above.

[danperkins]

I think this attitude is one of the main reasons that English youth football and player development is/was so far behind the continent. The sort of idiotic idea of commitment that got Joe Cole sent off against Arsenal and should have seen Carragher sent off against United is not a good thing.

Players can give their all and be passionate and determined to win without that - Kuyt being a prime example.

English youth football and player development are way behind purely because of the way kids are thought how to play the game of football, nothing got to do with attitude.

Cole got sent off for being over enthusiastic and trying to impress in his first game for a new club, nothing else mate he is far from a dirty player. Carra should have got a banker red card yesterday and these types of tackles are sickening. Carra is more clumsy than dirty, a horribly mistimed tackle that he should have got sent off for IMO.

[danperkins]

We aren't disputing Carra's 'legendary status' here, just that he talks bollocks sometimes. Of course some people are going to point issues at some of the things he says, much like some people find issues with some of the Xenophobic drivel spouted out by Ian St. John, who is a LFC 'legend' as well.

He talks bollox depending on what side of the coin your opinion is on i suppose. Seems to me that many of the people that supported Rafa right to the bitter end, have issues with Carra, as he was apparently a loud voice against Rafa, some more so than others of course i.e. You and Arn, just kidding....... but seriously i'm not ;D

I have no probs with the guy, has done his talking on the pitch for such a long time now, coming to the end of it now but a great pro and one of LFC's finest. Different strokes for different folks

[dom9]

We sold our best Captain before the 2009-10 season IMO, Xabi Alonso.

We still haven't replaced the leadership we lost when sold/let go of Xabi and Hyypia.

Xabi was our brain on the pitch and the player that ran the show.

Rafa's fault, no?

[danperkins]

Rafa's fault, no?

OOOhhh he's not going to like that

[Exiled_red]

If you are looking beyond Gerrard and Carragher as captains the for me the next one for me would be Reina then possibly Kuyt and Lucas (although he may need a couple more years). The rest of the team I don't see as realistic captain material. Kelly I think could be a future Liverpool captain at some point down the line.

In recent years we've lost some potential captains Big Sami, Mascherano, Alonso and maybe Torres

[dww]

English youth football and player development are way behind purely because of the way kids are thought how to play the game of football, nothing got to do with attitude.

Cole got sent off for being over enthusiastic and trying to impress in his first game for a new club, nothing else mate he is far from a dirty player. Carra should have got a banker red card yesterday and these types of tackles are sickening. Carra is more clumsy than dirty, a horribly mistimed tackle that he should have got sent off for IMO.

But that is pretty much the point. Cole expressed his desire to impress not via trying tricks or to play killer balls but needlessly flying in to a meaningless challenge. That is part of how we teach our kids to play football. After that game there was an interview with a Spanish player or commentator where they pointed out that you are much less likely to see that there as no one thinks of it as impressive. It's a difference in culture.

I think that the culture extends to the way we train young players. The thinking that physicality and winning are important in youth football is what has produced the problems we see.

Carra isn't a particularly malicious player but the sort of daft tackles he and Rafael were guilty of are much more common in English football than when you watch Spanish or European competitions for example. The more times players fly in recklessly the more chance there is of one connecting and someone getting injured.

[danperkins]

Reina should have been our captain over last few years IMO