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    #61
    Originally posted by Tee View Post


    If we want to get back in the CL, then quite simply we need CL level investment and CL quality players.
    I would say Young is better than lennon and I would also say Adam is better than palatrocious.

    Adam for me is a no brainer better than Poulsen/Spearing.....we need a couple of decent squad fillers as well as top draw to.
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      #62
      I hope we get Baines
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        #63
        Originally posted by ronanm View Post
        I hope we get Baines
        unfortunately I think fergie will come to there rescue and pay 20m+ for Rodwell so they wont need to sell.
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          #64
          No chance would I sign those 4 players. That would not be taking a step forward. Warnock is hit and miss, Parker is the wrong age while Downing and Young are ridiculously inconsistent

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            #65
            Originally posted by red g View Post
            8 goals and 8 assists from 29 games this season.

            Impressive.
            He's not a world beater but PL proven, good solid, only 25 and as long as he's not overly expensive I would be personally content with him.

            Also you cannot look his potential signing in isolation. If we sign a quality LB, Young will give us so many different options that he cannot at the moment at Villa (he was MOM against Wales partly due to the fact that him and Baines linked up so well on the left) as they don't have a good LB.
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              #66
              Originally posted by red g View Post
              8 goals and 8 assists from 29 games this season.

              Impressive.
              How many of those goals were penalties? Isn't he Villa's regular penalty taker?
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                #67
                Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                How many of those goals were penalties? Isn't he Villa's regular penalty taker?
                5 from his 32 career goal total, havent got sseason breakdown.

                not sure, Bent probably is now.
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                  #68
                  I am more interested in his assists record......thats whatt we need at the moment our top assists this season is Carroll with 6, unfortunately none for us
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by red g View Post
                    5 from his 32 career goal total, havent got sseason breakdown.

                    not sure, Bent probably is now.
                    He's still Villa's penalty taker according to wikipedia he has 4 pens for them this season

                    Originally posted by red g View Post
                    I am more interested in his assists record......thats whatt we need at the moment our top assists this season is Carroll with 6, unfortunately none for us
                    Fair enough his assist record is fairly impressive 8, 16, 14 and 17 going back from his season for each of his 4 full seasons at Villa. With 8, 9, 9 and 9 goals (according to wikipedia) and it's only recent seasons that he's become Villa's regular penalty taker. I think it's fair to say that this season he hasn't been as impressive as previously - perhaps due to tactics or lack of players around him doing it?
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by red g View Post
                      I am more interested in his assists record......thats whatt we need at the moment our top assists this season is Carroll with 6, unfortunately none for us
                      I would worry that most of those come from set pieces - our delivery has not been as bad as some make out and I think he has been helped by playing in a team made largely of giants.

                      I guess his pace might make him useful in terms of getting behind defenses though. But then everyone thought that about Babel too, who is the player Yound most reminds me of.
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                        #71
                        Originally posted by dww View Post
                        I would worry that most of those come from set pieces - our delivery has not been as bad as some make out and I think he has been helped by playing in a team made largely of giants.

                        I guess his pace might make him useful in terms of getting behind defenses though. But then everyone thought that about Babel too, who is the player Yound most reminds me of.
                        apart from being black and fast I dont see any other simalarities at all.

                        Young has proved he can score, beat a man and cross a ball and has been consistently good in the premiership .....apart from the odd blip

                        Young is the player babel could have been.
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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Darth Marty View Post
                          no ****ing chance. Are you Randy Lerner in disguise?


                          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                          He's still Villa's penalty taker according to wikipedia he has 4 pens for them this season
                          Bent wanted to take Villa's last penalty after Young was fouled but Young wouldn't let him. Young then missed the penalty, so Bent will probably step up next.

                          He seems to have averaged 20+ goals and assists every season since joining Villa with 17 assists in his debut season which is pretty impressive despite the fact he takes set-pieces.
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                            #73
                            Originally posted by RedReet View Post




                            Bent wanted to take Villa's last penalty after Young was fouled but Young wouldn't let him. Young then missed the penalty, so Bent will probably step up next.

                            He seems to have averaged 20+ goals and assists every season since joining Villa with 17 assists in his debut season which is pretty impressive despite the fact he takes set-pieces.
                            i am sure downing has taken a few set pieces to......
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                              #74
                              Originally posted by red g View Post
                              apart from being black and fast I dont see any other simalarities at all.

                              Young has proved he can score, beat a man and cross a ball and has been consistently good in the premiership .....apart from the odd blip

                              Young is the player babel could have been.
                              I don't see any similarities neither. Imo they are as different as they can possibly be.

                              Young uses both feet, can cross, good passer, much more game intelligence than Babel, better dribbler, good on both wings, not selfish, defensively stronger, free kick and corner specialist, much better work rate etc.

                              Also Babel's preferred position is a striker which is not the case for Young.
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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                                I don't see any similarities neither. Imo they are as different as they can possibly be.

                                Young uses both feet, can cross, good passer, much more game intelligence than Babel, better dribbler, good on both wings, not selfish, defensively stronger, free kick and corner specialist, much better work rate etc.

                                Also Babel's preferred position is a striker which is not the case for Young.
                                He really doesn't and he is considerably worse under pressure and often makes a lot of poor decisions.
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