Luis Suárez

[Reece]

How's this for a Gentlemans agreement:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2312430/Luis-Suarez-staying-Liverpool-striker-rubbishes-Bayern-Munich-switch.html

Don't try and put this back on Ayers and Rogers. That's garbage mate.

Even if he did make an agreement at that time who's to say they didn't make another agreement at the time this interview was done?

It's a multi million dollar corporate world, gone are the days of romance and gentlemans agreements. If its not on paper and signed it's worthless.

Yep, and:



That's basically a gentleman's agreement with the fans. So sack him!

[MrMichael]

First Sahin and now Suarez.

Oh come on Arn, this is a ridiculous line. The Sahin and Suarez things have nothing to do with eachother whatsoever. One is a loan player complaining about their game time - players sign for clubs on the premise of certain game time and then, after training and performances find things are different all the time. That's just the every day course of football. This has nothing to do with Suarez and promises to sell him (or not) at all. You can't just take 2 random, unassociated claims (not facts) and extrapolate a narrative out of them that just so happens to fit your particular view of the order of things at LFC. Well you can, but it is absurd to do so.

[frank the tank]

I really feel that the bite was pre-meditated. I said that i thought it at the time but now i feel that it must have been.

I think the guy thinks that because he is one of the best players in the world that he can do what he wants but it must have been a kick in the stones that the really top teams in the world - the barca's, madrids and munichs went and prioritised other players like Neymar, Bale, Goetze / Alcantera as opposed to this prick (i think Suarez is actually perfect for Munich to be honest)....

Part of me thought that Arsenal were only bidding for him to show their fans that they have ambition. They do it all the time - bid for the likes of Mata, Hazard, Alonso and Higuain but end up with the likes of Arteta! It will be interesting to see what happens if Suarez actually talks to them because surely he will want ~ 200k a week whereas i dont think Arsenal would pay that - otherwise they will have a knock on the door from the likes of Wilshire, Carzola and maybe Walcott......

I know the right thing would be to turn down arsenal no matter what but part of me thinks that if Suarez went there, then he is likely to pull the same ****e with them within a year and try to force a Madrid / Barca move. Also, i genuinely don't think he would be as good for them as he was for us. I dont think he would have a Torres type breakdown but my view is that Arsenal need a player that will finish all of their good build up play. A Higuain, Van Persie or a Lewandowski. Suarez will want to drop too deep and it could end in tears. Also, he will want to be the main man -he is too greedy on the ball and i don't think the arsenal players will bend over in the same way as the likes of Coutinho, Sterling and Sturridge do for him (it is no coincidence in my view that these players play better when rat-face isnt in the team)

I think if he submits a formal transfer request, then it is up to Ayre to whore him around as best we can. In reality, Spurs slowing up the Bale deal could end up shafting us. If Madrid had this signed and sealed, then they could focus on structuring a deal for Suarez.

Whoever we sell to, then i reckon we need to be thinking about replacements at the same time. Our squad isn't big enough. We should consider part-exchange deals whoever we sell to:
Madrid - Morata, Coentrao, Alonso (doubt any would come apart from maybe Morata)
Arsenal - Vermaelen, Walcott, Giroud
Chelsea - Lukaku, De Bruyne, Bertrand.........Torres? (maybe not....too old and wages too high)
City - Milner, Lescott, Kolarov, Dzeko, Sinclair??


I don't think they need Suarez, but if we could do a deal with City whereby Dzeko came to Anfield in part-exchange, then that would be an okay outcome....

[chadrtc]

There is no point to even try to point out that the club/manager made anything wrong.



First Sahin and now Suarez.

Reputation sticks.

Suarez have lied before but so have Rodgers. He lied about Reina, so who knows if Suarez is telling the truth or not.

If Suarez is telling the truth then IMO both Rodgers and Ayre should be sacked. The reason being that the players can't trust them telling the truth or trust a gentlemen's agreement made by them.

A gentlemen agreement made by them would be worth nothing. A gentlemens agreement is of course not written into the contract but it is still a gentlemens agreement. The manager and players must trust each other. It goes both ways.

If he isn't telling the truth then he can **** off. Then he really deserves to be called a Judas etc.

I do wonder if Suarez have any evidence that Rodgers and Ayre made the gentlemen's agreement. Any witnesses etc.

I will wait and see what the PL have to say about it. It may even go to court. After that I will know who to blame. Suarez or Rodgers and Ayre.

Really!?

Suarez can say and act as he likes, but on the pretty broad assumption that officials of the club had some sort of gentlemen's agreement that never formed part of the discussions of the terms of a contract, we should sack Rodgers and Ayre, who have both handled this whole farce impeccably!?

I know you like to go down the route of a conspiracy on just about everything that pertains to our club, but that is just straight up mental.

[Arn]

How's this for a Gentlemans agreement:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2312430/Luis-Suarez-staying-Liverpool-striker-rubbishes-Bayern-Munich-switch.html

Don't try and put this back on Ayers and Rogers. That's garbage mate.

Even if he did make an agreement at that time who's to say they didn't make another agreement at the time this interview was done?

It's a multi million dollar corporate world, gone are the days of romance and gentlemans agreements. If its not on paper and signed it's worthless.

If the reason that he signed a new deal was the gentlemans agreement and he have evidence to back that gentlemans agreement up then it is a big problem.

How will we be able to try to convince a top class player to join us if he knows that he can't trust Rodgers and Ayre? They would know that what they say is worth **** all. Promises made by them would be worth **** all.

Mourinho is a top class manager but he was forced out at Real because of broken promises etc. The players couldn't trust him anymore.

All I'm saying is that I won't blame anyone until the PL and maybe even a court said something about it.

[EwarWoo]

If the reason that he signed a new deal was the gentlemans agreement and he have evidence to back that gentlemans agreement up then it is a big problem.

If he had evidence of a gentlemans agreement he'd be speaking with his laywer not the papers. It's clearly ****.

How will we be able to try to convince a top class player to join us if he knows that he can't trust Rodgers and Ayre? They would know that what they say is worth **** all. Promises made by them would be worth **** all.

There's these things call contracts.

Gentlemans agreements are for what knocking off training early at Christmas, or what colour you paint the dressing rooms.

If they're making gentlemans agreements over critical contract conditions then I'd be more worried about how mickey mouse the operation is than about their honesty.

Look mate, I defended Suarez through most of this ****, and still stand by pretty much everything I've said, but the evidence is finally in and he really is a 2 faced lying judas prick. Time to accept it and move on.

[chadrtc]

If he had evidence of a gentlemans agreement he'd be speaking with his laywer not the papers. It's clearly ****.


There's these things call contracts.

Gentlemans agreements are for what knocking off training early at Christmas, or what colour you paint the dressing rooms.

If they're making gentlemans agreements over critical contract conditions then I'd be more worried about how mickey mouse the operation is than about their honesty.

Anyone who leaves such an important clause of a contract to a gentleman's agreement was clearly not that intent on enforcing it, if so he wouldn't have signed a four year deal without it being included.

This is all desperation to get a move... To Arsenal of all places.

[Darkon]

As I have said for a long time, just sell him, we will become a better team getting rid of him. We will lose a good individual but become a better team - especially now he tainted himself as much as possible.

As it was stated by the club earlier, Suarez needs to put in a transfer request to get sold, and he knows it as well and should just get on with it. If it's ambition that's really his drive, then the percentages shouldn't be the issue, so just go on with it.

Personally I don't give a flying horses bum if it's Arsenal or abroad, just get the ~40-50m and get in some replacement early. No need for another Torres, we should have learned from that - and I suspect that in a short time we won't really be missing Suarez neither - or actually even less as we have a very well functioning team without him already.

Go play with the brilliant defence and youngsters at Arsenal and fullfill your life long dream of CL qualification and no trophies for a lifetime there - and fullfill mine and just get the **** out of the club for as much money as possible.

[Leyton388]

The fact is unless a club comes in with a offer the club think is acceptable he is going no where. No club will be signing him on the cheap.

[spider-neil]

Unless his true value is met or unless his contract isn't water tight he shouldn't be released. Torres went for 50m and there is no way Suarez should be allowed to leave for less than that, not with 3 years left on his contract. Arsenal, if you want the player than pay what he is worth or **** off.

[Arn]

Really!?

Suarez can say and act as he likes, but on the pretty broad assumption that officials of the club had some sort of gentlemen's agreement that never formed part of the discussions of the terms of a contract, we should sack Rodgers and Ayre, who have both handled this whole farce impeccably!?

I know you like to go down the route of a conspiracy on just about everything that pertains to our club, but that is just straight up mental.

He pointed out that one of the reasons to why he signed the deal was the gentlemen's agreement. If that is true then it formed a part of the discussion of the terms of the contract.

If he is telling the truth and can back it up, then it would be almost impossible for us to sign a top class player or even try to negotiate with them if they can't trust Rodgers and Ayre.

I do wonder what the players think if Suarez can back up what he says?

Again, I will wait and see what the PL and maybe even a court say about it.

[Vermilion]

Let. him. rot.

[poorscousertommy]

What a horrible odious little prick he is.

The worst part for me is not the wanting to leave to play Champions league footy, it's the way he has totally disrepected the fans and the club who stuck by him through all the trouble he has caused.

He shouldn't be whining about a gentlemans agreement that he could leave, he should be more worried about why his agent signed off without a proper clause in his contract.

I have to disagree with people who think it is ok to sell him to Arsenal though. We would strenghten our biggest rivals for a 4th place spot whilst weakening our own side dramatically. No matter what you think of the horrible little gob****e, he is still a fabulous footballer.

I just hope that we can convince players of a good enough class to join us once he has left. All I see is people turning us down whilst we are looking to offload some decent players to cut the wage bill.

Worrying times.

[smu1977]

Bored now, let him go wherever. I don't want to see him in an LFC shirt again. He has been a great footballer but a cunt of a person and has damaged the club in his time here.

I actually think we played better without him end of last season. We will survive no matter where he goes. I don't buy this idea that Arse will suddenly be so much stronger if he does join them anyway.

[EwarWoo]

Again, I will wait and see what the PL and maybe even a court say about it.

He's not going to go to arbitration, he's just sounding off. If he was doing he would have by now.

But even if he did you'd probably come up with:
"The FA is biased against him"

"Xenephobia of the British court system"

etc etc.

It's pretty much pointless discussing it further with you as you're not going to move on regardless of what evidence you're presented with.