Mark Gonzalez

[Fiddy]

I think so far Pennant has been the biggest disappointment, he has put in several very poor performances for us. Speedy is not quite so disappointing because the league is new to him, he's had less game time, and had injury to deal with. Looking to the future though who knows how good/bad they could prove to be for us, it's still early days for both of them.

Speedy looked like he was trying to hard when he came on again today. He is trying to play outside of himself when he just needs to relax and play his own game. We've seen him put in some nice crosses and deliver some good corners but I'm really hoping to see him take people on and beat them more than anything.

Pennant had the same problem as Speedy but I feel he has shaken the nerves off now, and it's more of a case of developing some understanding with his team-mates. I think as he plays more games we will see his confidence grow and the indecision that hampers him at times will leave his game. He really needs to work on his upper body strength though, he gets knocked off the ball too easily.

Yeah good point, he is a bit weedy. It's strange because I remember being fairly impressed with him a few times for the Brummies last season, but now he looks like a little boy lost. He seemed a bit of an MOTD player though - you saw him whipping in a few crosses on the highlights but that was about it...think he got quite a few assists if I remember rightly? I don't think Rafa sees him as the finished article yet, maybe more of a project that was worth it at the time seeing as he couldn't get Alves

[Red Chilli]

Gonzos shiner was done by a senior player at the club, he was not injured but more like punished. The club did not want the news to go public so they fabricated it that he's injured .

Was it divine intervention

[Marky]

Bonjour.

Me comprendez Englais.

Danke schon.

Don't know what your saying there but the 'Englais' makes me think
your having a pop at my English Grammer

[Craig_H]

Don't know what your saying there

That's an amazing coincidence, because i encountered the same feeling of confusion after your previous post.

[Marky]

Gonzos shiner was done by a senior player at the club, he was not injured but more like punished. The club did not want the news to go public so they fabricated it that he's injured .

Come on lad, reveal all here or at least PM me
My money's on Carra, he'd be the type to have a go if he sees a player isn't pulling his weight and rightly ****ing so, just a hunch.

[Marky]

That's an amazing coincidence, because i encountered the same feeling of confusion after your previous post.

Come on DJ, it's Saturday night/Sunday morning like posts
In others words: all over the show

[Fiddy]

[QUOTE=DJS]Very selective examples. Either Chelsea or Man Utd, who you acknowledge are the biggest spenders, are going to win the title...
QUOTE]

Are they? Arsenal don't look too shabby lately. And United at least overspent on two English players who were pretty much sure things, and at least had youth on their side (ie Ferdinand & Shrek)... how is bringing up Ballack & Shevchenko 'selective'? They were brought in at the same time as we got the group of players you're complaining about, and have had a similar impact. In fact no, because that does Dirk Kuyt a serious disservice - at £10m he's looked three times the player Shevchenko is, which is strange considering the latter cost three times the money.

[Craig_H]

Well each to their own, but i personally think that Sheva and Ballack are unquestionably brilliant and doubting them isnt something a knowledgable fan does.

As for the initial point, yes United or Chelsea will win the league.

[Shaggy]

Gonzos shiner was done by a senior player at the club, he was not injured but more like punished. The club did not want the news to go public so they fabricated it that he's injured .

?????????

[Fiddy]

Well each to their own, but i personally think that Sheva and Ballack are unquestionably brilliant and doubting them isnt something a knowledgable fan does.

As for the initial point, yes United or Chelsea will win the league.

Am I the only one that thinks calling two 30-year olds who were brought over for huge money and have patently not lived up to their names so far 'unquestionably brilliant' is a bit silly? They might be brilliant but there's certainly a few questions, even more so given the £££ involved. If Pennant turns out to be **** it's £6.5m and £20k a wk down the drain, if Shevchenko is a bust then it's £30m and £130k. But hey, I'm evidently not that 'knowledgable' (weren't you taking the piss out of someone's English a bit earlier?)

[REDSCOUSER]

Come on lad, reveal all here or at least PM me
My money's on Carra, he'd be the type to have a go if he sees a player isn't pulling his weight and rightly ****ing so, just a hunch.

Let me make one thing clear mate, I have no sources BUT yours truely used to work at "it' in the game" for two years on the footy game they make. Anyways, made good friends there one of which works in the Marketing dept.
He was in Liverpool last week and was told by a staff member at Melwood that there has been an incident with Gonzalez. He was not told anything else. He is not a POOL fan or any club for that matter, he just told me cos he knew how mad as Reds about our club.

[REDSCOUSER]

Was it divine intervention

[Craig_H]

If you dont think Ballack and Shevchenko are brilliant footballers, then i would indeed question your footballing knowledge.

And no, i wasnt taking the piss out of someone's english earlier.

[Jan-Erik]

Ok, so he hasnt impressed me alot since signing, but I've seen what he's capable of. He's got pace and a great left foot. He works his socks of tracking back. Why this sudden negativity? He's 21 and from Chile. He may need some time to settle down. Lets calm down and give him some space and time to settle in.

[Craig_H]

Why this sudden negativity?

Because....

Ok, so he hasnt impressed me alot since signing