Liverpool v Arsenal Post-Match Thread

[Imy]

Falcao and Mata £55m

or

Carroll and Downing £55m

It's not as black and white as that though.

LFC: Do you want to come to Liverpool?
Falcao and or Mata: No.

LFC: we will pay you more.
Falcao and Mata: Deal.

Were we ambitious enough to ask?

Falcao and Mata £55m(in europe)

or

Carroll and Downing £55m(not in europe)

Falcao and or Mata: Are you playing the Champions League this year?
LFC: No

Agree, this is why getting in to the CL is so important.

[Imy]

agree, but we cannot spend that money twice... it has already been spunked.

[Phoenix07]

But would those players be afforded more patience because the transfer fee was less?

With those qualities, you can see whether they've got the promise to make it here. There are other factors such as age and ability shown at his previous club.

When a player doesn't make it here and their price is sky high when it shouldn't be, I look to the dugout and the Directors Box.

It's a tough one to call whether patience would be afforded because of the price tag because there are so many factors to consider. You could use Adam as an example and say that he's alright because we only paid £7m and he's not world class, but he was great for Blackpool and would be a good squad player to have.

[Exiled_red]

But would those players be afforded more patience because the transfer fee was less?

I certainly think they would get less stick, a number of people have been calling the Downing and Carroll 'the worst signings in club history' this is largely due to the fees paid, they have been labelled 'some of the worst players in our history', which is clearly not the case. The fee paid warps the fans expectations and assessment of their ability. If we had paid half the fees we had for Downing and Carroll they would still be the same players but they wouldn't have had the same amount of stick IMO.

Whether they are good enough is a seperate arguement entirely...

[Exiled_red]

Agree, this is why getting in to the CL is so important.

[Mostar]

Made GIF of Luis moment of brilliance.

[Imy]

I certainly think they would get less stick, a number of people have been calling the Downing and Carroll 'the worst signings in club history' this is largely due to the fees paid, they have been labelled 'some of the worst players in our history', which is clearly not the case. The fee paid warps the fans expectations and assessment of their ability. If we had paid half the fees we had for Downing and Carroll they would still be the same players but they wouldn't have had the same amount of stick IMO.

Whether they are good enough is a seperate arguement entirely...

Dunno, Charlie Adam was a relative bargain and he gets as much stick.

It's simply they are not good enough regardless of the fee.

[Muddled]

Were we ambitious enough to ask?

I would think so, any player that is identified as somebody that would fit in to our system and was available I'm sure we'd be in for.

However, we have to accept that we will probably be told in some instances that there is no way a player will join us, so we look at other targets.

[Icon]

If only Luis had a strike partner of some intelligence he could rely on...

[Imy]

Made GIF of Luis moment of brilliance.

Such a shame there wasn't a goal at the end of it

That gif is representative of our season, plenty of foreplay but no ejaculation.

[Mostar]

I would think so, any player that is identified as somebody that would fit in to our system and was available I'm sure we'd be in for.

However, we have to accept that we will probably be told in some instances that there is no way a player will join us, so we look at other targets.

We didn't approach Mata though and he cost Chavs as much Downing cost us in fees and wages.

[Exiled_red]

Dunno, Charlie Adam was a relative bargain and he gets as much stick.

It's simply they are not good enough regardless of the fee.

Adam hasn't been getting anywhere near as much stick as Downing and Carroll IMO

[Chazza]

Thought Adam was poor today

[The Reverend]

Adam hasn't been getting anywhere near as much stick as Downing and Carroll IMO

Because he was miles cheaper than either

[Imy]

I would think so, any player that is identified as somebody that would fit in to our system and was available I'm sure we'd be in for.

However, we have to accept that we will probably be told in some instances that there is no way a player will join us, so we look at other targets.

You'd hope so, but Mata (or his agent/dad) mentioned the clubs that approached him, we were not one of them - some itk'a have said the same also.

I believe Downing, Adam, Henderson and Enrique were or first choice targets