Our players out on loan

[Cormack74]

Surely his contract with us must be about up?

[baitman]

Surely his contract with us must be about up?

a year left according to http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sebas...spieler/102427

on loan from: Liverpool FC
Contract there until: 30.06.2016

[The s man]

All players out on loan should go - wisdom maybe the only one but I just don't think he has the technique but I may be wrong - all others out please we need cash

[Exiled_red]

All players out on loan should go - wisdom maybe the only one but I just don't think he has the technique but I may be wrong - all others out please we need cash

If we are only going to get a couple of million quid, some of them such as Coates might be worth more to us than the cash.

[redmike65]

All players out on loan should go - wisdom maybe the only one but I just don't think he has the technique but I may be wrong - all others out please we need cash

So you want to bin all of Coates, Origi, Ilori, Teixeira, Alberto?

[dww]

I don't know but I'd feel better with him in the side than Lovren or Kolo. I realise not many seem to rate him on here but he reads the game very well, is dominant in the air, and a bit like Henchoz absolutely *loves* defending and throwing himself in front of things.

I really hope we give the returning players a chance in pre-season. That's not to say that we should keep them all but Alberto, Teixeira, Wisdom, Coates and Ilori all look to have some quality (even if it is not clear it is enough for us).

If nothing else it would mean we would have just about every style of CB conceivable for the coaching staff to try to blend into a functoinal defense.

[The_weatherman]

I really hope we give the returning players a chance in pre-season. That's not to say that we should keep them all but Alberto, Teixeira, Wisdom, Coates and Ilori all look to have some quality (even if it is not clear it is enough for us).

If nothing else it would mean we would have just about every style of CB conceivable for the coaching staff to try to blend into a functoinal defense.

I agree, I think we are just as well off with Coates, Ilori or Wisdom in place of Kolo. If we need to concentrate our resources towards the strikers and midfielders I'd even consider go into the season with Skrtel, Sakho, Lovren, Coates, Ilori and Wisdom. I think Rodgers could buy Silva and Chiellini but still turn them **** either way.

[Muddled]

I think Rodgers could buy Silva and Chiellini but still turn them **** either way.

Nonsense.

[The_weatherman]

Nonsense.

I think the way we play the defenders don't stand a chance under Rodgers, the midfield is too open, the fullbacks press forward but noone covers, leaving the CB's stretched and spaces all over. That's my point. Don't think it's nonsense.

[RedReet]

Yet Skrtel has played his best football under Rodgers, Sakho has looked good when fit and we broke an all-time club record for consecutive away clean sheets.

[The_weatherman]

Yet Skrtel has played his best football under Rodgers, Sakho has looked good when fit and we broke an all-time club record for consecutive away clean sheets.

When we played three at the back it looked good for a while I'll give that, but he can't get the balance right, he's been here three years and we are ridiculously unbalanced and open. And Skrtel needed to be flanked by two players to limit his role and Rodgers doesn't seem to rate Sakho and we weren't keeping clean sheets against the strongest opponents IIRC.

[Muddled]

I think the way we play the defenders don't stand a chance under Rodgers, the midfield is too open, the fullbacks press forward but noone covers, leaving the CB's stretched and spaces all over. That's my point. Don't think it's nonsense.

I instantly thought of David Silva, my apologies. You mean Thiago, right?

Rodgers has a track record of getting attacking players to play well, hence my original reply but still, I think a higher calibre of defenders would instantly improve our team; I don't think Rodgers would 'turn them ****'.

At the moment, he's got a selection of central defenders that all have bad traits or traits that don't complement the other. Skrtel runs back to goal, Lovren runs up and Toure just runs everywhere. Our only competent centre back is Sakho who has to completely change his game to adjust to whoever he is partnered with.

[The_weatherman]

I instantly thought of David Silva, my apologies. You mean Thiago, right?

Rodgers has a track record of getting attacking players to play well, hence my original reply but still, I think a higher calibre of defenders would instantly improve our team; I don't think Rodgers would 'turn them ****'.

At the moment, he's got a selection of central defenders that all have bad traits or traits that don't complement the other. Skrtel runs back to goal, Lovren runs up and Toure just runs everywhere. Our only competent centre back is Sakho who has to completely change his game to adjust to whoever he is partnered with.

I think he'd get D. Silva to play relatively **** in defence.

I think it's a setup problem more than personel, the way he likes our midfield setup it's just too open and as a result our defenders will always have too much too do. The reason Lovren and Kolo run everywhere is because they feel the need to step up and close the gaps all over the place.

[dww]

Yet Skrtel has played his best football under Rodgers, Sakho has looked good when fit and we broke an all-time club record for consecutive away clean sheets.

When we played three at the back it looked good for a while I'll give that, but he can't get the balance right, he's been here three years and we are ridiculously unbalanced and open. And Skrtel needed to be flanked by two players to limit his role and Rodgers doesn't seem to rate Sakho and we weren't keeping clean sheets against the strongest opponents IIRC.

I think the back 3 worked well but made pretty exacting requirements of all three positions. When we didn't have Sakho, Skrtel and Can fit and playing together we seemed very vulnerable.

The poor performance against top opposition point seems valid.

[The_weatherman]

The away record was only PL games and it was against Southampton, Swansea, Everton, Villa and Sunderland. The games finished 0-2, 0-1, 0-0, 0-2 and 0-1. But we also faced Bolton, Besiktas, Palace and Chelsea away in cups during that run and conceded in every one of those games.