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    Even Guillem Balague mentioned the Mata/Downing link.

    As for the Gotze/Henderson stuff, I'm calling it bull****. It's like saying we wanted Iniesta, but Allen was the priority. Getting a bit tired of Rory Smith too, acting like a tabloid style journalist.

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      Originally posted by Phoenix07 View Post
      Even Guillem Balague mentioned the Mata/Downing link.
      Yup, he was one of the major people talking about it and he was absolutely insistent that (A) he was interested (B) it was completely realistic (C) we were in for him first.

      We backed off and went for Downing, Chelsea swooped in and got him almost unrivalled. Arsenal wanted him but never actually bid because they were trying to sell first to raise the money.
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        I don't believe that we could have bought him without his people sounding out Chelsea first, so there was no chance of us signing him if Chelsea wanted to. They did, and we didn't.
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          Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
          I don't believe that we could have bought him without his people sounding out Chelsea first, so there was no chance of us signing him if Chelsea wanted to. They did, and we didn't.
          "His people" invited interest from everyone - Chelsea weren't in the first group that discussed bids for him. They came in right at the end.
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            He doesn't fit at Chelsea either, he's too good for them, and too nice a guy. He would have suited Liverpool perfectly in every way. He was such an obvious signing, how the hell did we not go for him

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              Don't speculate guys. Doesn't help. At the end of the day we got Downing and al that's all there is to it I'm afraid. Let's hope they learn from it and we get Dilva.
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                Yes, we had no chance.
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                  Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                  Yes, we had no chance.
                  I genuinely think we did have a chance if we'd got in early in the summer with a bid, a small chance, but a chance nonetheless.

                  You've always got to think differently haven't you Kenny

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                    There's no reason to believe Gotze can/could cut it in the EPL, just look at Sahin's woes at the moment.

                    It might look unbelieveable to some that they wanted Henderson as a priority but he has everything in his game to be a top class central midfielder. Perhaps they thought Gotze was too big a gamble to take.
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                      Hey mr hot prospect with the world at his feet, come and play carling cup football for us. Don't even bother talking to these CL clubs offering twice the money, sign for us, we are first to ask after all. And hurry up before anyone else notices.
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                        Sahin's straight off the back off a serious injury though, I think this is being overlooked all too often. Gotze is a magnificent talent. He wouldn't have come even if we'd tried.
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                          GOTZE COULDN'T HACK IT IN THE BEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD!!!

                          ... apart from that's exactly what he's doing right now.
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                            Can you imagine Suarez, Mata and Goetze in the same team, our team
                            We come not to play.

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                              We persuaded Suarez to come, he didn't have an attachment to our club. Why couldn't the same have happened with Mata and Goetze?
                              We come not to play.

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                                Difference: there was genuine, proven interest in Mata.

                                There wasn't with Gotze.
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