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    Originally posted by Icon View Post
    Feel like we've gone back a couple DECADES...
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      Originally posted by Icon View Post
      Feel like we've gone back a couple years...
      And today we should be feeling the joy of Istanbul, not the pain of potentially appointing another Hodgson.

      Martinez has great potential, I believe that I really do. But he is simply not right for us at this juncture. Gut feeling.
      "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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        Not to be over dramatic... sometimes I feel we are staring right into this ****er

        What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins

        Batman

        F*** off!!!

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          Stroke of genius or monumental **** up. Only time will tell.
          Brandt - Keita - Van Dijk - Sessegnon

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            Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
            What a monumental **** up this is.
            How do you know?
            Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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              Originally posted by Yozza View Post
              Not to be over dramatic... sometimes I feel we are staring right into this ****er

              No, I think you got the dramatism just right there.
              Oh I don't know.

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                Originally posted by Shanks View Post
                I wouldn't blame all of that on Martinez.

                I'm sure Daven Whelan has a lot to answer for.. (last of the big spenders) and Martinez did a great job of getting the best out of N'zogbia, where a few managers before, have failed..

                He's also managed to get Moses to perform a few miracles..
                Surely if Kenny takes the hit for us finishing 8th, we'd expect the same to be levelled at Martinez? Martinez has Wigan *just* avoiding relegation much like Kenny had us *off* fourth.

                Fair enough, Moses played well towards the end of the season, but was Moses playing for a future move, or playing well because it suddenly clicked under Martinez's tutelege?

                Martinez might have been one of the few to get N'Zogbia playing, but he still can't get a team of eleven to play consistently well for a sustained period of time.

                I have *HUGE* reservations.

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                  ESPN has been told Roberto Martinez wants assurances over the level of control he will have over team affairs before agreeing to become Liverpool's new manager.

                  Wigan boss Martinez flew to Miami to hold talks with Liverpool's owners FSG this week as the Reds upped the ante in their search for a successor to the sacked Kenny Dalglish.

                  Latics chairman Dave Whelan has recently warned Martinez that he may not have full control of the club's transfer dealings, believing FSG wish to adopt a more European-style recruitment structure.

                  Speaking on Friday, Whelan confirmed Martinez's first set of talks with FSG have now come to a conclusion, with further discussions planned next week as the Spanish coach mulls over whether the position at Anfield is right for him.

                  Whelan told ESPN: "Roberto has had a constructive meeting with Liverpool. He is now back at my home in Barbados. He returns to London on Tuesday, when he will have further talks with Liverpool and when a decision will be made.

                  "There was no other manager mentioned so I imagine they want Roberto. I don't want to lose him, but I made him a promise when he first joined that, if a big club came in for him, I'd let him go, and I will honour that promise.

                  "I am still not convinced it is a foregone conclusion, because they put their points on the table, and Roberto put his. He listened to their points, but I think they also listened to his and I think they are coming to terms with the way English football is run. Roberto wants control over football matters and that includes transfers, and if they agree to that, then I can see him becoming the Liverpool manager.

                  "Roberto works seven days a week, sometimes 12 hours a day. He is not the average manager, but he likes to run the football side, and I can see Liverpool's point of view about the amount of money spent on players. If they agree to let Roberto take responsibility for the transfers than I think he will go there, and I can see that Liverpool have set their sights on him."
                  "Our legacy begets an excellence that surpasses the particulars of who produces it." -- David Carr

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                    And the Rafa to Villa, Martinez to Liverpool post makes me want to bleach my mind of all things football.

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                      So it looks as though the DOF appointment could well be an issue with our potential managers.

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                        Yaay!! Whelan in more self-promotion.

                        Shut.
                        The.
                        ****.
                        Up.

                        And please, full control of transfers for Martinez? We've gone from French Houllier, to Spanish Rafa, to British Kenny with a dash of URGay to Martinez and ...

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                          I could not dig, I dared not rob:
                          Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                          Now all my lies are proved untrue
                          And I must face the men I slew.
                          What tale shall serve me here among
                          Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                            What I want to know is, say we finish 9th next season, get knocked out of both cups, Martinez spends £50million on transfers.

                            Will they sack him?
                            The times they are a changin'.

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                              Originally posted by Gibbo9 View Post
                              What I want to know is, say we finish 9th next season, get knocked out of both cups, Martinez spends £50million on transfers.

                              Will they sack him?
                              I would have though so.
                              "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                                Originally posted by Mello View Post
                                Cry, because England has the manager they deserve and Villa would have a manager far better than they deserve. It's our club getting screwed.
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