New manager thread

[cannotmakeit]

Ok I'll go back to lurk as the regulars like you and bob don't like what I just said.

[Mello]

if the owners want a young manager then its ****ing obvious why they haven't approached Rafa. Are some people thick? I'm not saying the decision to go down that route is correct but so be it. Does anyone think Rafa could work without having much of a say on transfers? do me a favour. If we had wanted a traditional 'manager' ala fergie or wenger then rafa should/would of been a very strong contender.

nothing to see now, move along............

If their biggest concern is the age of the manager rather than what he's done, they are idiots that have no place running a corner shop, much less Liverpool FC.

I don't get where people think this structure means the manager has little to no say on transfers. This is the same structure as most US sports teams have and coaches have a lot of say into who comes in. They just don't have the final say. Yes, I think Rafa would to work in that situation unless the DoF was on a completely different page.

I'd also suggest that trying to change the entire football structure, while your club is in decline, while expecting an immediate return to the top 4, and needing to sign some world class players to achieve that isn't the best way to go about things. This is the type of thing you do when your on top and already have the names and reputation in place to attract players or you are at the very bottom, don't expect to get results for many years, and don't care about the immediate consequences of those changes.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

they want a young manager who has very little input on transfers, that would rule out rafa no?

How do you know what role he'd accept if you don't ask? This is a massive decision you'd at least think they'd bother to ****ing find out.. Guessing has no place in making this kind of decision.

[red g]

I hope FSG are spitting feathers with Whelan coming out on and saying this.

****ing gob****e

[Rich]

they want a young manager who has very little input on transfers, that would rule out rafa no?

Bob, you're right.

If FSG don't want the manager to have complete control then that would appear to remove Rafa from the equation.

You have to ask whether this philosophy is the correct one though.

Most of the top managers in the game, certainly in England, want absolute power.

[red g]

Whelan is almost doing a second hand car pitch with Martinez here. You know the sort of stuff they do with old duffers that have no clutch and sand in the tank 'well, mate. I don't really want to sell it but because its you you can have it for xxxx' type stuff.

Its getting so obvious that I'm starting to think that there is something wrong with Martinez that no-ones sharing, like he's some sort of deviant or has sand in the glovebox.

Whelan has been talking up Martinez for years.....although he probably said the same about the fat headed one to.

[Chrono]

Ok I'll go back to lurk as the regulars like you and bob don't like what I just said.

Don't be a pansy, I was only joking. Just pissed off with this defeatist attitude.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Nobody knew he was going to be such a monumental **** up even if most were concerned. Backing Roy was the right thing to do as would backing Martinez although in no way am I drawing a comparison between them.

Yes I agree we should back them as fans.

But obviously there are ways of telling, poor previous and lack of experience at a big club will have a higher probability of ****ing up that someone that has proven to be up to it.

I can't say I 'Know' 0 won't come out on a roulette but I'd be willing to bet against it because the chances seem clear.

[Rowan]

Whelan has been talking up Martinez for years.....although he probably said the same about the fat headed one to.

If he's so good why is the old duffer so keen to get shot of him?

(That said something makes me think he'll actually do a pretty good job here. I'm not exactly chucking spunk about but I'm quietly ok about the whole thing)

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

People on here seem to not be able to think for themselves by looking at facts, stats and generally forming their own opinion.

They claim (you don't know) when you spend time analysing things but then claim RAFA WON'T COME BACK IN THAT ROLE.. Which is obviously fine because I don't know, given the information I have based on events that are true. But they clearly know Rafa and have spoke to him, Or read a quote saying its full control or nothing.

[vonk]

I think the way people are behaving, nobody is going to give Martinez a decent chance which I think is quite sad really.

No, most posting on here are prepared to support him until around about November. Shankly wouldnt have stood a chance.

[Pablo]

I see the Moose (the fat ******* West Ham fan off TalkSport) is still trying to mess with us with the whole Klopp subterfuge angle:

Ian Abrahams @Moose_talkSPORT
Hearing a lot of sstuff regarding Liverpool FC and their new manager - I am now being lead to believe it will happen on Monday and my

Ian Abrahams @Moose_talkSPORT
source is 80% the Liverpool manager will be Klopp not Martinez

He was saying it was 100% yesterday afternoon, by yesterday evening it was 90%, now it's 80%

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

I see the Moose (the fat ******* West Ham fan off TalkSport) is still trying to mess with us with the whole Klopp subterfuge angle:





He was saying it was 100% yesterday afternoon, by the evening it was 90%, now it's 80%

Plucking percentages out his arse or A random number generator or The Jeremy Kyle show

[BrooklynRed]

Can we just say Ian Ayre will not allow Rafa back and does not want him at the club. FSG have put their faith in Ian Ayre. Rafa will not be back. Can we start a thread grieving for Rafa and complaining about FSG's dumb (and it is) decision not to consider him? In this thread, can we then talk about actual managerial candidates here?

[cream]

People on here seem to not be able to think for themselves by looking at facts, stats and generally forming their own opinion.

They claim (you don't know) when you spend time analysing things but then claim RAFA WON'T COME BACK IN THAT ROLE.. Which is obviously fine because I don't know, given the information I have based on events that are true. But they clearly know Rafa and have spoke to him, Or read a quote saying its full control or nothing.

The role is of a coach and coaching alone. There will be an experienced man taking care of everything else ie manager. Can't see Benitez happy being a glorified coach.