Daniel Sturridge

[Irishnev]

I take the first point we need an out and out striker. But you have answered yourself on the second point, keep him and gamble. That's exactly what it is. We gambled this season on keeping certain players fit and lost. I'd sell and maybe replace with two players that we can rely on.

I'd keep him and buy another striker - the gamble I meant was that he'd even give us the 25 games a year.

[Harv]

I give him all sorts of stick, but credit where its due. He was quality yesterday and in his sub apprearance vs Southampton. Like Studge of old.

Its a tough question whether to sell or keep as a squaddie, when you consider what our options are and how hard it would be to get the same quality player (when fit and on form).

Then you consider how ****/injured he's been for last 3 seasons and how much money he's on. Squad players can't be earning 150k a week.

[EwarWoo]

I do think that there is a case for the fact that we haven't played to his strengths enough under Klopp (same is true of Origi). Playing Coutinho deeper and allowing Sturridge to be a more natural centre forward seems like something we should do more against packed defences.

There's a case for not building tactics around a player who's never fit though too. It's a waste of time and energy.

This is the problem with a player who's so rarely fit. How much time do you spend drilling tactics to suit him before it becomes a zero sum game?

At some point you have to say it's better to spend the time in training working on tactics where he isn't a key player.

Keeping him isn't just about the waste of money, who cares about that, Klopps tighter than Wenger, it's the waste of time and energy it entails unless we get another player just like him. And if we do why keep him?

[Mark79]

Yep, no qualms about finding ways of accommodating Sturridge in the team.
It's all about how often we can actually use him when he's needed.

[dww]

I hope we sell him, for all his talent I just doesn't think he will contribute enough. I'd rather have a rotation player we can reliably call upon. Hopefully Ings is back next season and can be that guy, and hopefully we buy a new striker that can play most games.

If we at all can get a decent price for him this summer I hope we get rid and reinvest the money.

I don't see any reason for thinking that Ings will be a reliable presence once he comes back. If I was to keep one of the two it would be Sturridge.

There's a case for not building tactics around a player who's never fit though too. It's a waste of time and energy.

This is the problem with a player who's so rarely fit. How much time do you spend drilling tactics to suit him before it becomes a zero sum game?

At some point you have to say it's better to spend the time in training working on tactics where he isn't a key player.

Keeping him isn't just about the waste of money, who cares about that, Klopps tighter than Wenger, it's the waste of time and energy it entails unless we get another player just like him. And if we do why keep him?

I think Origi is a decent option in a similar role (Ings to oif he is ever fit). In fact I think that Sturridge is just an very good standard issue forward - if anything our default system which relies on Firmino being an absolute dynamo and Mane providing width is much more fragile. We need to add a different tactic that actually works as too many points have been left on the field this season when poor teams park the bus.

[baitman]

origi is just a slightly less bad jordan ibe.

[Darkon]

I don't see any reason for thinking that Ings will be a reliable presence once he comes back. If I was to keep one of the two it would be Sturridge.



I think Origi is a decent option in a similar role (Ings to oif he is ever fit). In fact I think that Sturridge is just an very good standard issue forward - if anything our default system which relies on Firmino being an absolute dynamo and Mane providing width is much more fragile. We need to add a different tactic that actually works as too many points have been left on the field this season when poor teams park the bus.

Personally I'd rather take my bet one someone who has just been very unlucky breaking his legs twice (haha sounds ridiculous just writing it), over someone that's chronically been having small injuries for 3 years now. Sturridges problem won't go away, Ings just might.

[EwarWoo]

too many points have been left on the field this season when poor teams park the bus.

And working on tactics with studge on the training ground wouldn't have helped, he was injured for most of them.

We don't know whats going on behind closed doors, we could have left more points on the field had we wasted training sessions on tactics we'd rarely get to use.

What we do know is he's not even vaguely close to reliable.

When he's fit I like him as a player. He seems like a good bloke as well. But time for head to win over heart.

[labourRed]

origi is just a slightly less bad jordan ibe.

On current form, he's a minor upgrade on David N'Gog.

[Buzzo]

It was interesting that MotD made the point of Sturridge and Klopp having a good relationship, and provided footage to back it up (smiles from both and hugs) the narrative that he is a work shy cripple has definitely hampered what has undoubtedly been a challenging time for him injury wise.

MotD made the points regarding the effectiveness of Coutinho from deep and the cleverness of Sturridges play (he effectively drifted wide, which caused havoc for the West Ham back three).

I wonder if Klopp may have learnt more about how to utilise the players at his disposal yesterday than he has all season?

[Big-Red-Ed]

I like Daniel and when he's on it he is one of the best . But his injury record means there is always some drama around him. Unless we are offered next to nothing I would sell and let someone else deal with the drama.

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[shanks69]

If we could guarantee he would be fit for 30 games next season I would have him stay no problem keeping him but I just can't see him being fit for that amount,in fact would any of us be shocked if he was injured for the boro game and that is the problem.

[BG1973]

i'd hope we'd offer some kind of appearances deal.

Base rate 10 million, rising by a further 10 million every time he plays 30 games.

With a maximum fee of 50 million..

Tricky if he gets sold on again..

[Fredo]

It was interesting that MotD made the point of Sturridge and Klopp having a good relationship, and provided footage to back it up (smiles from both and hugs) the narrative that he is a work shy cripple has definitely hampered what has undoubtedly been a challenging time for him injury wise.

MotD made the points regarding the effectiveness of Coutinho from deep and the cleverness of Sturridges play (he effectively drifted wide, which caused havoc for the West Ham back three).

I wonder if Klopp may have learnt more about how to utilise the players at his disposal yesterday than he has all season?

[Fredo]

I wouldn't sell him unless he wants to go. He's world class and if he's happy to play infrequently, then he's worth keeping. I don't care if the club isn't getting its worth over him, that's not my problem. I'm sure he'll be needed if we play more games next year.

And as Buttso said, with Coutinho in a deeper position, he'll be thriving big time with that kind of service. It's a potentially lethal partnership.