Poll - Expectations of Fans, Manager and Owners

[ISMF]

It only as direct implications of the number of fans reading the forums where you posted this.

You need to take into account that the country:
a) does not have English as a primary language
b) only as 51% internet penetration compared to 82% in the UK.
c) even if they do speak English and have internet access they will not necessarily seek out English football forums

If this kind of assumption is the basis of your research its flawed at a much more fundamental level than your questions.

You got wrong end of the stick 1.2% is exceptionally high (More than Spain/France/Italy/Greece/Turkey combined. Equal to the number of people from Germany)

When you consider how small a country Uruguay is (3M people) , and all of the above its pretty astounding.

[ISMF]

But if its American fans who post on English forums surely its a biased sample as its fans who spend a lot of time amongst English fans? For example I wouldn't expect LDH to have the same view as a typical american due to the amount of time he spends here. At some level he's poluted by our inate negativity and cynicism.

Its as biased as the sample.

However I was arguing in a hypothetical scenario if there is a difference between US and UK fans.

If UK/US fans are the same, exposure to one another on a fan forum should make little difference. (not drastically alter opinions so that they then differ).

If anything as you say views should converge (due to exposure).

[Darkon]

I think someone is taking a small survey on a couple of fans forum far to seriously...

and it's not the OP

[AnfieldForever]

I think someone is taking a small survey on a couple of fans forum far to seriously...

and it's not the OP

I agree, at least the op has found out which LFC fansite is the most mental during this process.

[little dave hedgehog]

if you think neil having a reasoned if anally retentive pop at someone over the methodology of a poll means we're the most mental group of fans on the net, i invite you to cast your eyes once again over our competition.

[dom9]

I'm with Neil on this. Hence my non participation in the survey. Perhaps Neil could do an inter site survey of those who abstained to find out their reasons why.

[Fosterbloke]

These were my sentiments but conveyed in an inappropriate way.

[Neil Young]

I think someone is taking a small survey on a couple of fans forum far to seriously...

and it's not the OP

Yeah, right.

[dww]

I think someone is taking a small survey on a couple of fans forum far to seriously...

and it's not the OP

Is it me? I haven't actually read it but it is the sort of thing I'd do.

[Darkon]

Let the guessing games begin

Dww: I don't think you posted in this thread before, so no

[Neil Young]

And 1.2% of fans who responded being from Uruguay tells us what? That LFC is now relatively popular in Uruguay.

Blimey, what an astonishing statistic that is. It's almost as though by signing their country's best player and one of their best young players, some people in Uruguay might have become interested in the club the players now play for.

I was expecting 1.1% but 1.2%, it's totally amazing. Of course 1.3% was always a dream.

In other words, I don't need a number to tell me that support in Uruguay will have increased since Suárez and Coates joined. Of course I would if I were trying to access that market but I'm not.

Now what "debate" can we have about that statistic? Come on, what's the point?

And a few basic questions:

1. How many people constitute 1.2% of the sample? A hundred? A thousand?
   
2. And what are the confidence limits?
   
3. And how does it compare to relative proportions of followers enjoyed by other clubs?
   
4. And what proportion of the world population are we talking about taking part in this global survey?

[Alex]

Can we not wait until the results of the poll are published before dissecting them?

[Neil Young]

Darkon, if you think the OP isn't taking his survey too seriously then you've missed the point.

[Neil Young]

Can we not wait until the results of the poll are published before dissecting them?

Pah. Ridiculous.

And no Alex, I'm not kidding.

[Darkon]

Yeah, right.

I should have said a few people

Seriously though, starting criticsing a fans small survey to spark some discussion by it's research design and methodology, as if it's to be judged along side something to be published in a scientific journal is to me a bit overkill, and taking it for more than it is. And furthermore scoring points over the OP by him not knowing an entire back-catalogue of research methods, reads to me (might not be intended?) that you are taking it too seriously, and assumes anyone who might be interesting in aggregating some opinions as a layman can't do so without picking up a handbook in quantative methods and preferably some theory of science as well, just kinda misses the essense of it IMO.

It's a light-hearted survey to spark a bit of discussion/debate, and not even claiming to be a representative, randomly selected, perhaps even clustered in it's approach, and therefore I can't see why it should be taken as more?

Personally I thought it could be a bit of fun seeing what could come out of it, even if some of the questions were poorly formulated, and even if it didn't go along everything I've learned at univeristy as how to do this type of research...