Liverpool vs Swansea post match

[dom9]

Is it me or am I imagining it. Some of Rodgers biggest critics haven't posted on this thread yet. I'm sure if we'd lost or drawn they'd be on page 1

Good result. Glad we had a solid win especially now with a two week break before the next league game. It will keep the 'Brendan Rodgers' thread going into overdrive at least

It's fine lines really. We've played like that many times this season and got nothing. Playing our best attacking football in quite a while

Haha at this thread. Comedy gold.

And yes, was about to make the same point.

Where is Lecter btw?

[Sarb]

Haha at this thread. Comedy gold.

And yes, was about to make the same point.

Where is Lecter btw?

Probably celebrating the victory or coming up with another stick to beat us with, as not beating a team in the top 10 this season is now not applicable. I can imagine quite a few are a bit annoyed at that.

I suspect he's working on something around 'Only beat a weakened Swansea side'

[red g]

Funny that isn't it... same how when a player you (not you personally, the collective "you") don't like has a great game.

We've played like that plenty of times this season... in fact, we've played better than that because there were periods where we couldn't get the ball back off Swansea... the only difference really was taking our chances and we still missed half a dozen really good chances, most notably Sturridge's header from 6 yards out.

As Laudrup said - could easily have been 10-0.

loved his brutal honesty

[Captain Stu]

Agree totally with the above. Coutinho also missed a sitter and I thought it would be one of those games again. Regardless of people on here wanting to paint a different picture, we've played like that many times this season and either got a point or no points. We're definitely moving in the right direction. Going to be lots of ups and downs for sure.

Don't see Rodgers getting much credit for what Sturridge and Coutinho have already bought to the team....his signings.

If Coutinho puts in another half dozen games like that this season - I'll be VERY impressed. He's obviously going to have some tough games when he plays against harder fullbacks who'll try to kick him (I'm looking at you, Stoke...) but he didn't get phased at all by the attention he was getting.

loved his brutal honesty

Gotta love the guy in general but yeah, very brutal to pretty much just say "we were gash".

[Darkon]

Yeah, wish there were more managers (and players) that didn't have the habit of talking things down and saying nothing!

[Tee]

Is it me or am I imagining it. Some of Rodgers biggest critics haven't posted on this thread yet. I'm sure if we'd lost or drawn they'd be on page 1.

Not aimed directly at you mate, but it is this very aspect if point scoring that has really changed this place recently.

The way I have always seen it:

1. Every member is a Liverpool supporter first and foremost, so by default we all want the same thing!

2. This is an Internet forum so it is the best place to vent frustration and be critical. Well, I used to think it was the best place because criticism led to discussion, now it leads to point scoring and becomes personal.

3. No need to pigeon hole people into different camps, ie BR supporters, RCDNW etc.... See 1.

FWIW I detested Houllier with an absolute passion because IMO he destroyed the very fabric of this club, the style of football we play. But there was never a moment I did not want the team to win and never a time I was glad we lost.

So please can we respect everyone's right to criticise their team. Everyone has an opinion on the team and whether I agree or disagree I defend their right to air it without bring mocked.

Like i said Sarb, not aimed at you but I needed to get this off my chest.



Personally, I have also been critical of BR recently and the jury is still out for me. But (predictably you will say) I cannot ignore the fact it was a weakened team we played. Having said that you can only beat what is in front if you and we did a professional and entertaining job of it.

I just want to see us go on a consistent run between now and the end of the season to convince me we can make that step forward next season. But I think we are still susceptible to another WBA performance.

[Gingawaria]

1. Every member is a Liverpool supporter first and foremost, so by default we all want the same thing!

This point seems arguable these days sadly.

[dom9]

Not aimed directly at you mate, but it is this very aspect if point scoring that has really changed this place recently.

The way I have always seen it:

1. Every member is a Liverpool supporter first and foremost, so by default we all want the same thing!

2. This is an Internet forum so it is the best place to vent frustration and be critical. Well, I used to think it was the best place because criticism led to discussion, now it leads to point scoring and becomes personal.

3. No need to pigeon hole people into different camps, ie BR supporters, RCDNW etc.... See 1.

FWIW I detested Houllier with an absolute passion because IMO he destroyed the very fabric of this club, the style of football we play. But there was never a moment I did not want the team to win and never a time I was glad we lost.

So please can we respect everyone's right to criticise their team. Everyone has an opinion on the team and whether I agree or disagree I defend their right to air it without bring mocked.

Like i said Sarb, not aimed at you but I needed to get this off my chest.



Personally, I have also been critical of BR recently and the jury is still out for me. But (predictably you will say) I cannot ignore the fact it was a weakened team we played. Having said that you can only beat what is in front if you and we did a professional and entertaining job of it.

I just want to see us go on a consistent run between now and the end of the season to convince me we can make that step forward next season. But I think we are still susceptible to another WBA performance.

OK, I guess this is aimed at me. And that's fine. Although there was some tongue planted firmly in a cheek.

It is pretty tedious reading the same negative **** from the same people all the time. I totally respect their right to say whatever they like, but when we do win, they just seem to scurry away. Would it really hurt say well done or point out the postives So what's wrong with having a bit of balance and perspective? As I might say, you have done.

[Tee]

OK, I guess this is aimed at me. And that's fine. Although there was some tongue planted fiurmly in a cheek.

It is pretty tedious reading the same negative **** from the same people all the time. I totally respect their right to say whatever they like, but when we do win, they just seem to scurry away. Would it really hurt say well done or point out the postives So what's wrong with having a bit of balance and perspective? As I might say, you have done.

My post was not aimed at anyone on particular and certainly was not thinking of you when I posted!.

It may well be tedious, but the reactions are not right IMO. What happens if we continue as we have this season and BR is replaced in the summer?

A summer if point scoring with the 'anti-BR camp' saying I told you so?

Creating this kind of environment is tedious and is killing this site. IMO

[dom9]

My post was not aimed at anyone on particular and certainly was not thinking of you when I posted!.

It may well be tedious, but the reactions are not right IMO. What happens if we continue as we have this season and BR is replaced in the summer?

A summer if point scoring with the 'anti-BR camp' saying I told you so?

Creating this kind of environment is tedious and is killing this site. IMO

As you say, being staunchly in one camp or the other is indeed tedious, but that's life I guess. Look how divisive Rafa was in his last season (and since). We're not yet there on BR just yet, but to be staunchly pro or anti without balance and perspective. Well, the more militant the view, the stronger the reaction against it. And that will always be the case. It's human nature. And it's the nature of the internet.

[Alex]

Point scoring happens everywhere. Its even in the posts people make when they said they called it right. I dont see anything wrong with it personally. Just a bit of fun.

But I find I agree with Dom on this one. It is OK to not like the manager, but to only come out and push the issue when we lose is wrong IMO.

I quite like Brendan, but I dont ram that down everyone's throats every time we win. Its the same thing really.

[MrMichael]

Agree that point scoring is never good, but I can totally understand why some people get frustrated at what does sometimes come over as fans almost revelling in failure as it proves them right.

Not saying they actually do that, but it can read like that. You only have to see that there can be almost twice as many people online immediately after a defeat as after a good victory - yes people use the internet to vent frustrations but sometimes recently I know I personally have been really turned off the football section here because of the constant sniping and negativity about everything at the club; what seems like a total lack of balance and patience and sometimes even quite a sense of entitlement akin to what fans of other clubs accuse us of having.

Me, I've quite enjoyed this season. Its been up and down but its felt fresh and new and different and like in time something good might actually happen. Then I come on here and wham, the sky is falling in. Now I'm not one to try to score points from other lfc fans, I hate the way things have gotten so divisive over the years, but I can see why people end up doing it. If they're not to do it after a positive result then perhaps others need to take some responsibility for reigning in the negativity just a touch after a bad one?

Oh, and no way is this something new in here, its been going on as long as this forum has and doubtless long before that elsewhere. Brendan, Rashid, DJSyd, RCDNW etc etc etc

[TheElephantMan]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and as long as people aren't trying to force theirs on others I don't see what the problem is? Yesterday's victory was superb, just hoping for more of the same over the coming months.

[Tee]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and as long as people aren't trying to force theirs on others I don't see what the problem is? Yesterday's victory was superb, just hoping for more of the same over the coming months.

Just no need to mock people that's all.

As well as we did yesterday I remain far from convinced by the current set up, especially since someone posted a breakdown of all the backroom staff.

[Sarb]

Just no need to mock people that's all.

As well as we did yesterday I remain far from convinced by the current set up, especially since someone posted a breakdown of all the backroom staff.

Tee, I wasn't having a pop at you.

In all honesty, I think you're pretty balanced when you post, win, lose or draw.

Without a doubt though, I agree with MrM. There are definitely posters on here, other forums and twitter who revel in the poor results. They are on here straight away, posting in threads on Rodgers, Borini, Allen, Post-Match absolutely slaughtering us. That's their opinion granted, but they try and force it on everyone else and it becomes boring, tedious and quite depressing in all honesty.

I'm in neither camp, nor pro Brendan or anti. I like the guy though. I like how he talks about football and I like how we have been playing this season. Of course the results have been disappointing though. But some fans have been dishing out personal insults and jump on every poor result. That's annoying