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    Originally posted by Darkon View Post
    Mignolet is a fine keeper IMO, and I would be very hesitant to replace a keeper because of a few shakeups in his first 7-8 monthes here. Not even completed a season yet! Young and getting used to a new backline and playing style.

    He has all the necessary qualities, he just needs to build a bit more on top. That and he really needs to getty a steady defence in front of him. It's been in and out with the back 5 this season, added on top to some changes in personel.

    Give the lad time and he will come good, I'm certain. Already saved us quite a few points this season, especially in the first half, when we were not that well playing.

    I completely agree, he has bags of potential. Perhaps we should be looking at our keeper and defence coaching structure in the summer.

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      Unlucky on the pen, choose correct and got down and across extremely quickly, had it not been placed perfectly he'd have got to it imo, which tbf, is all you can ask of a keeper, it's really up to the penalty taker to give you some sort of chance, if he doesn't no keeper will save.

      Edit: Just a thought, but why isn't a keepers kit designed to make him look bigger and wider, optical illusion like design. Depending on which kit Mig wears i think he sometimes looks big but other times i think....he's not that big .

      Note to Warrior: Maybe add some of these...
      Last edited by Vermilion; 24-02-14, 09:06 AM.

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        Originally posted by kingfunk View Post
        I completely agree, he has bags of potential. Perhaps we should be looking at our keeper and defence coaching structure in the summer.
        Perhaps it's part of it, hard to tell?

        Judging by our play a lot of the training time have gone in to changing our style of play and perfecting the conversion from defence to attack. Seems like our focus have been there at the expense of getting a settled defence.

        Right now we are getting results, so doubt we will see a huge change in defensive setup right now. Perhaps all we need is to start focusing on positioning and communication in the summer break?

        From my chair it looks like our main problems, more than the defenders or the keeper. It's about getting the communication, positioning and understanding between the defensive line to work, and it usually takes more than half a year, and especially with the changes we have had to make.

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          Thing is with him, he's a big tall chap but he isn't an imposing figure.
          Are we winning?

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            Originally posted by souliv View Post
            I think the fact he is rooted to the line is playing a major part in these defensive woes I think he really needs to be more commanding in the sixth yard box
            This

            In order to play an effective midfield pressing game we need to keep a high line at the back but we can't because the defence drops deep to compensate for Mig not coming for anything. Skrtel had a pop at him yesterday for not coming for a ball that should be your keepers all day long. He literally won't move for any ball now. His confidence is shot in that regard. Couple that with his lack of comfort with the ball at his feet and you have to wonder is he really suited to the game we want to play.

            We've had many woes at the back and they aren't all his fault but he certainly isn't helping since the Christmas games. Reina not the answer either but a keeper of that type is, sweeper keeper. Coaching can improve weak parts of a keepers game but they won't be turning him into something he's not at the age of 26.

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              Akloppalypse Now !

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                Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                Unlucky on the pen, choose correct and got down and across extremely quickly, had it not been placed perfectly he'd have got to it imo, which tbf, is all you can ask of a keeper, it's really up to the penalty taker to give you some sort of chance, if he doesn't no keeper will save.

                Edit: Just a thought, but why isn't a keepers kit designed to make him look bigger and wider, optical illusion like design. Depending on which kit Mig wears i think he sometimes looks big but other times i think....he's not that big .

                Note to Warrior: Maybe add some of these...


                It's all a bit Jorge Campos.
                3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                  Amazed at the stick he gets if I'm honest. He made a few brilliant, important saves yesterday and none of the goals were his fault. He has his weaknesses but I think lots of you are being too harsh on him. He's saved us loads of points already this season. I think had Pepe been in goal yesterday we might not have won that game.

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                    Originally posted by dizzycat View Post


                    Originally posted by RoboKop View Post


                    It's all a bit Jorge Campos.

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                      Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                      I think it's double edged. The nervousness of both keeper & defence is effecting each other. It shouldn't as the strikers are scoring so many they should be relaxed. They can pretty much afford to cock up once or twice as they'll be bailed out.


                      it's a mixture of a few things and when all rolled up it's snowballing into a big cluster****

                      Mignolet, has some limitations, but he seems so nervous, his limitations are getting bigger and at the same time the back four has issues, and they've looked nervous, making mignolet more nervous, causing the back four to make more mistakes

                      and all this isn't helped with the fact we have to change the back four virtually every other week due to injury.

                      Through on top of that, all season the midfield when it gets over run, they're out the game - how many times do we see 3/4 attackers against 4 defenders. This forces the back four even deeper.

                      We looked that paanicky on sunday that to be honest, i thought to myself **** it - bar Sakho and Mignolet (new players/both will get better/time on their side) and probably flanagan as cover i'd sell the lot - new right back, new left back and a couple new centre halves and a proper dm
                      i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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                        I think the crowd didn't help at times yesterday. Every time someone played a poor pass there was murder in the crowd. I think the collective nervousness of the fans sometimes transfers onto the pitch too.

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                          Originally posted by G View Post
                          This

                          In order to play an effective midfield pressing game we need to keep a high line at the back but we can't because the defence drops deep to compensate for Mig not coming for anything. Skrtel had a pop at him yesterday for not coming for a ball that should be your keepers all day long. He literally won't move for any ball now. His confidence is shot in that regard. Couple that with his lack of comfort with the ball at his feet and you have to wonder is he really suited to the game we want to play.

                          We've had many woes at the back and they aren't all his fault but he certainly isn't helping since the Christmas games. Reina not the answer either but a keeper of that type is, sweeper keeper. Coaching can improve weak parts of a keepers game but they won't be turning him into something he's not at the age of 26.
                          He definitely needs to improve at coming off his line and commanding his area. On that specific incident with Skrtel though, I thought that Skrtel (not for the first time yesterday) was in the wrong. The ball barely made it to the area ahead of the striker and Mignolet had to let go to avoid handling outside the box (even then it touched his elbow and he could have been penalised). All Mignolet could have done coming earlier is put his boot through it, so Skrtel should have dealt with it himself and avoid the risk.

                          The one after where Toure had a go at him for not coming off his line was keeper's ball all the way though.

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                            Originally posted by PTP View Post


                            it's a mixture of a few things and when all rolled up it's snowballing into a big cluster****

                            Mignolet, has some limitations, but he seems so nervous, his limitations are getting bigger and at the same time the back four has issues, and they've looked nervous, making mignolet more nervous, causing the back four to make more mistakes

                            and all this isn't helped with the fact we have to change the back four virtually every other week due to injury.

                            Through on top of that, all season the midfield when it gets over run, they're out the game - how many times do we see 3/4 attackers against 4 defenders. This forces the back four even deeper.

                            We looked that paanicky on sunday that to be honest, i thought to myself **** it - bar Sakho and Mignolet (new players/both will get better/time on their side) and probably flanagan as cover i'd sell the lot - new right back, new left back and a couple new centre halves and a proper dm
                            Rodgers's idea is that teams won't commit men forward because they'll be wary of getting done on the counter. So, basically our midfield is composed of 1 sitting and the rest marauding forward. Part of the problem IMO. Rodgers doesn't think it's structural and I agree with him, but if teams are bold, they've got a chance against us.
                            Are we winning?

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                              His only problem is he needs to ****ing man-up and stop being such a fanny. Start gripping the defence and sort them out, start to ****ing lead.

                              A week in Aldershot NAAFI with 2 Para would do him the world of good.
                              Those that hid Anne Frank were breaking the law.
                              Those that killed her, were following the law.

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                                I'm surprised that Mignolet is getting more rage from people compared to Jones when he plays, despite 90% of people here hating Jones more. At least you cant fault Jones for being unsure. He sees a cross or whatever he smashes through people to get to it.

                                With that said I'm still happy with Mignolet as our keeper. He does some brilliant instinct saves. He'll smarten up once our defenders become more static after the window.

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