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    at least jones came off his line and punched one clear. raced to the edge of the box, mig would have been there just hugging the post.

    did we actually bid for butland. im not googling it, oh no.
    removing all the weak links makes us stronger

    too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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      Originally posted by baitman View Post
      at least jones came off his line and punched one clear. raced to the edge of the box, mig would have been there just hugging the post.

      did we actually bid for butland. im not googling it, oh no.
      "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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        I think perhaps the goals we have away at the weekend highlights that Mignolet is not the only problem and in truth brings more to our defence than some.

        Ay least with Mig he does make saves even when the defenders have either switched off or gone walk about, much rather him in goal than Jones who IMO is dreadful.

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          I'm not a fan of either, but Mignolet despite being **** has some redeeming factors i.e. good shot stopping ability. Jones is poor at everything. My opinion of him as a person has increased ever so slightly, but he's still horrendous. I don't mind him playing now presuming their is a new player coming in during the Jan window. Jones is definitely better, or maybe more comfortable with the ball, there was a moment in the Arsenal game when he hit one into midfield to feet and I was shocked as I can't remember the last time I've seen one of our keepers do that.

          I won't be sad when Jones goes though, nowhere near good enough even to be second choice, very amateur. Also he is the only Hodgeson signing still at the club. Once he's gone I won't have a reminder of that **** being Liverpool manager as it'll be erased from my memory. He's a symbol of that horrific period.

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            Originally posted by Dessy View Post
            There every point in sticking around as an understudy if you have the will and desire to succeed in your chosen profession? And there's every point in LFC keeping hold of players who want to improve, fight for their place and realise their potential in a red shirt?

            Or perhaps lets just **** em all off and let them develop and excel elsewhere
            You lost me there, we still talking about Mig?
            One tit for another.

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              Originally posted by BigChief View Post
              You lost me there, we still talking about Mig?
              All joking aside, whilst Mig was bought in for a decent fee and presumably to be our No. 1 given the Reina debacle he was and is still very much a young keeper with potential (like so many before him) and I just don't think we have been successful developing our GK potential?

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                Not sure how Achterberg keeps his job bearing in mind how our goalkeepers have deteriorated under his coaching

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                  Originally posted by Sarb View Post
                  Not sure how Achterberg keeps his job bearing in mind how our goalkeepers have deteriorated under his coaching


                  It's been said before but the quality of our coaching generally is questionable, goalkeeping and defense in particular could benefit from a complete review?

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                    Absolute lunacy to sell Reina and leave these two as our keepers. And yes he had declined but at least he was the correct type of keeper that Rodgers wants and he certainly wouldn't be any worse at stopping shots then Jones is. He'd have been ideal until such time as we find the long term successor which probably won't be until summer.

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                      Originally posted by G View Post
                      Absolute lunacy to sell Reina and leave these two as our keepers. And yes he had declined but at least he was the correct type of keeper that Rodgers wants and he certainly wouldn't be any worse at stopping shots then Jones is. He'd have been ideal until such time as we find the long term successor which probably won't be until summer.
                      Agree. If distribution skills and ability to spread the play are fundamentally important enough to Brendan's philosophy to justify dropping Mignolet for Jones, then it's hard to understand why Reina was ditched, wages aside. Yes he had declined, but if Jones is the standard to compare against I'm not sure the wage saving was worth it.

                      Can only hope we have a long-term term solution lined up.

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                        the only reason reina was shipped out was that he prostituted himself to barcelona if he had kept his mouth shut he probably would still be in goal for us, rogers for all his faults can't be held responsible for that. what was he supposed to do wait until reina left and then try and get a keeper in? he had to act quickly then to compound it reina slags him off while on loan to napoli after that there was no way back for him he only has himself to blame for that,the galling thing is that the silly coont is better than the pair of clowns we've got now

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                          He didn't slag him off he said Rafa was the best manager he played for. Hardly a crime that. Loads of our fans still think Rafa was the best manager we've had in recent times.Rodgers ego couldn't swallow it though so he let him go. There were more than enough doubts about Mig in the summer to keep Reina around just in case.

                          I really hope we have someone excellent lined up for January, the timing of Mig's dropping makes no sense if we haven't.

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                            Mattia Perin is the goalkeeper being lined up as the new No.1. Never seen him play but supposed to be one for the future.

                            Sure Achteberg will release the potential

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                              Originally posted by wongers View Post
                              the only reason reina was shipped out was that he prostituted himself to barcelona if he had kept his mouth shut he probably would still be in goal for us, rogers for all his faults can't be held responsible for that. what was he supposed to do wait until reina left and then try and get a keeper in? he had to act quickly then to compound it reina slags him off while on loan to napoli after that there was no way back for him he only has himself to blame for that,the galling thing is that the silly coont is better than the pair of clowns we've got now
                              Is right. Reina wanted a move to Barca and so we put the wheels in motion. He started having second thoughts when he realised Barca didn't want him, but his head wasn't at Anfield. A keeper needs extreme focus, Rodgers didn't know his character, so it wasn't a gamble we could take.

                              Second reason and equally as strong I think, was that he was on a ridiculously high wage. And he wasn't performing of the level required to deserve that wage.

                              Replacing Reina wasn't a mistake. Replacing him with Migs was the mistake.

                              Mignolet is a good keeper. But he's not got the ability to play the way we require. We've tried to force the issue, but all it's done is sap his confidence. I don't think he'll ever learn and it's time to end the effort. Time to get a replacement.
                              Forwards.......

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                                Originally posted by Sarb View Post
                                Mattia Perin is the goalkeeper being lined up as the new No.1. Never seen him play but supposed to be one for the future.

                                Sure Achteberg will release the potential
                                Yeah. Saw that in the Metro. He's got good hair.
                                A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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