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    Originally posted by RedRum View Post
    Very interesting. That's disappointing to hear about Rossiter. Maybe the players he was up against were judging him on qualities that aren't the most important in relation to his position. As he is a holding midfield player, you would expect his ability/overall game to be limited, like Lucas (dribbling, shooting) but excels at other things. Maybe it's just wishful thinking because I had high hopes for Rossiter, like you say though, having the mental part of the game sussed can take you far.
    It would be interesting to hear what those who play with him say. I think sometimes observers and opposition alike can under estimate the things players do that help others excel.
    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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      Originally posted by dww View Post
      It would be interesting to hear what those who play with him say. I think sometimes observers and opposition alike can under estimate the things players do that help others excel.
      Yes, when I've seen him play the team seems to hang together a bit more. Difficult to explain but some players allow others to go forward, get back at the right times, like mini-catalysts.

      It's hard to predict at this level though. They might look exceptional against players their own level but the step up is beyond them, they're only good when everyone else is at the same sort of ability. Some kick on - Sterling seemed to and kept improving. Fowler and Owen were the same, and Gerrard. Others don't quite get there like Neil Mellor who broke all kinds of scoring records in the reserves.
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        Originally posted by Venton View Post
        Yes, when I've seen him play the team seems to hang together a bit more. Difficult to explain but some players allow others to go forward, get back at the right times, like mini-catalysts.

        It's hard to predict at this level though. They might look exceptional against players their own level but the step up is beyond them, they're only good when everyone else is at the same sort of ability. Some kick on - Sterling seemed to and kept improving. Fowler and Owen were the same, and Gerrard. Others don't quite get there like Neil Mellor who broke all kinds of scoring records in the reserves.
        A lot seems to depend on when and how they are challenged with the step up. Both Martinez and Rodgers have said that they think the lack of exposure to high level competitive football (rather than training or talent) is the problem with development of players in this country. It will be interesting to see the development of those players we are loaning out lower down the leagues.
        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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          Originally posted by dww View Post
          A lot seems to depend on when and how they are challenged with the step up. Both Martinez and Rodgers have said that they think the lack of exposure to high level competitive football (rather than training or talent) is the problem with development of players in this country. It will be interesting to see the development of those players we are loaning out lower down the leagues.
          Yup, and which clubs they go to probably have a lot to do with that.
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            What do you think of Cheltenham Town as a destination?
            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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              Originally posted by dww View Post
              What do you think of Cheltenham Town as a destination?
              They're struggling a bit? Managers might go with their tried and trusted players in those kind of situations. Then again, scrapping for every game might do them good...
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                Having said that it's probably good practice for the defenders, -15 gd!
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                  @MerseyReds1: #LFC youngster Sheyi Ojo named Wigan's Man Of The Match on his debut today. He came on as a sub. Future is bright. http://t.co/t05zCghF3C

                  Wow. Not a bad start for the lad.
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                    Slinky will be livid.

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                      Originally posted by Chazza View Post
                      Slinky will be livid.
                      Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                        I keep thinking Grace Jones when I see a picture of this lad

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                          U21s beat Man City 2-1, goals by Wilson and Trickett-Smith.

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                            jordan rossiter is out for 2 months after having ankle surgery.
                            who's arsed?

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                              Del.
                              Last edited by RedReet; 16-02-15, 05:17 PM. Reason: I am a ****!!!
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                                U21s host Sunderland.

                                The team: Fulton, McLaughlin, Smith, Jones, Maguire, Williams, Randall, O’Hanlon, Sinclair, Brannagan, Wilson

                                Subs: Vigouroux, Cleary, Trickett-Smith, Stewart, Canos
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