Dejan Lovren

[Phoenix07]

Got to be Van Den Berg covering as 4th choice centre-back when we play in the Carabao Cup and FA Cup. I can see Hoever covering at right back.

I think his value is also because of his wages. He's on £100k a week, or something like that.

[Mark79]

It's a good offer, he's on big wages and he's 4th choice.

Makes sense I think. Hopefully this means we think one or 2 of the youngsters are ready to step up and be more involved as squad players.

[badpiggy]

Did anyone else see that video of Lovren after the CL shouting at Mane? Was he being a bit of a cunt? Is he a cunt? As in would Klopp want him out?

[Norbs]

Leaves us one injury away from being in the ****. Bizarre

[Pablo]

Bye bye Dejan. Looks like he's definitely off.

There will be a few more leaving from our Premier League rivals in the next week or so I'd imagine.

[Pablo]

Leaves us one injury away from being in the ****. Bizarre

Both words often attributed with Dejan ironically.

[Shaggy]

Leaves us one injury away from being in the ****. Bizarre

Hoever looks a hell of a prospect but he's 17. So is Sepp van den Berg. It's wild enough throwing 17 year olds into attacking positions. Playing 17 year olds at centre-back at this level is just bat****.

On the other hand, Lovren can't stay fit for longer than a month or so without picking up some sort of niggle, and that's pretty useless especially when you're on 100k p/w.

[Maxiedge]

**** knows what's going on behind the scenes but it seems he's not happy at being fourth choice (he does come across as very alpha-male) so he's being moved on.

[Phoenix07]

I think maybe Klopp's thinking is that for Matip to sign fresh terms (his contract expires at the end of the season), he'd be guaranteed regular game time, since he'll be rotating with Gomez and VVD, while at the same time, throwing the gauntlet to Hoever and Van Den Berg et al, that there's a free spot in the squad to work toward.

Not saying it's right or wrong, but perhaps what's informing their thought process.

[Dirk07]

Got to be Van Den Berg covering as 4th choice centre-back when we play in the Carabao Cup and FA Cup. I can see Hoever covering at right back.

I think his value is also because of his wages. He's on £100k a week, or something like that.

Agree with this.

I have also been thinking that part of the reason why we have managed to get VDB and also Harvey Elliott was on the basis that their progress would not be blocked by a full complement of senior players in their position.

In addition to be able to compete with the like of city we need to be smart, getting 15m and saving 5m in wages is about 8% of our total wage budget for the year.

[Big-Red-Ed]

Lovren did pick up a bit after his dreadful start with us. I think people forget how abysmal and embarrassing he was for most of his first year or 2.

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[Shaggy]

He's not travelled for the Super Cup so must be off.

[Mark79]

Lovren did pick up a bit after his dreadful start with us. I think people forget how abysmal and embarrassing he was for most of his first year or 2.

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Really? I don't think anyone has forgotten that!

[Fuzzy]

I think because of that start people keep forgetting he was actually pretty decent for most of the time here. Some heroic games, including the CL final which was unfortunately undone by Karius. If nothing else he always seemed to really care about the club.

Good luck to him.

[Fuzzy]

On a more positive note it looks like we're scraping together the money for #Mbappe2020 :P