His decision making and positioning look really suspect.
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Liability in all honesty.
Wanders off towards the front post when the ball is floated in and a small striker like Berahino has a free header in the box. That's basic. Non-League-Level basic.
I want to like him but everything he does screams poor basic defending. Skrtel gets slammed for being on his arse and trying to nick the ball but this fella is an exaggerated version and tries it in our box. Leader? We'd be ****ed quite simply.
Hope he can turn it around and there are some attributes he has that could make him popular if he stopped the errors but for me at this moment in time, it should be Sakho every single day of the week.Vive la FranceComment
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I remember reading when we were linked before he went to Southampton that Lyon fans couldn't wait to be rid of him. Tells you something.Comment
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He'll come good. Him and Skrtel just need time to gel.Comment
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He's going to prove a few people wrong in time. Much, much too early to judge him. And I'd say that for any of our new players.Are we winning?Comment
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Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
I think it's a problem exacerbated by Gerrad seeming less sharp in front of the back four. Three new players though is a lot to accommodate at once. Especially as it appeared we had issues already with communication and two of them are new to England."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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I think it's forgotten that bar Skrtel it's been new players at the back for the majority of the season which takes time to get right .Originally posted by dww View Post
I think it's a problem exacerbated by Gerrad seeming less sharp in front of the back four. Three new players though is a lot to accommodate at once. Especially as it appeared we had issues already with communication and two of them are new to England.
Watching the way Lovren plays it's so similar to Skrtel with rushing out to intercept that it must be something we've been trying to instil into the defenders to be on the front foot and aggressive which when it works is fine but that occasion it doesn't leaves us horribly exposed at the back.Comment
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I think the whole approach seems flawed but at the minute it is hard to tell if that is valid or if the players just don't know one anothers games well enough. I do think that so much change and trying to accommodate the quirks of Gerrard as a DM is an awful lot to ask.Originally posted by rcasemore View Post"The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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Originally posted by G View Post
Really trying my best not to slaughter this guy
as it's still very early days but he does look ****e. As you say Lyon fans didn't like him and I didn't think he was all that last season. Still remember Soldado, of all people, making a cunt of him for 90 mins at St Mary's. Like, proper made a mug of him. All over the shop he was. Brendan has proved in the past he can run things as a meritocracy - the Skrtel situation for example - in which case Lovren should be bombed out with Sakho straight back in when he's "fit again".
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Aye I saw little to convince me last season, he was decent until Christmas but dipped badly after that. As you say early days but he's not started well at all, the only argument to keep him ahead of Sakho is that he's newer to the club. Which is not a great reason really, he's 24, has a season in our league under his belt already in a team with a style similar to ours so he should be coming in and performing solidly at least straight out of the box.Last edited by G; 06-10-14, 12:01 PM.Comment
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Not sure about that NigeyOriginally posted by Nigey View Post
Normally there is something to cling to
Theres far too much wrong with Lovren imo
Positionally hes totally inept and when you consider that his organisational and leadership qualities were the reasons we signed him then thats a worry
Maybe he will turn things round and prove me wrong but for me hes been that bad hes made Skrtel look ok and thats some achievementBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."Comment
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Originally posted by G View Post
To me there is always something that you can see and think well hes got that but he needs to improve on other stuff but with Lovren the qualities we signed him for just arent there
Personally I agree with you Sakho is a better player at this moment in time and that is saying somethingBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."Comment
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I see all the same flaws in Sakho that there are with Lovren. Not sure swapping the two will make an awful lot of difference.Comment
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i think either Lovren or Sakho would both improve if they were playing next to a defensive leader. A Carragher for example. What is worrying about that is that Lovren was supposed to be that guy - that vocal, takes-charge, no messing about, highly organised and concentrated leader at the back. I think someone like Shawcross in place of Skrtel might work out - with either Lovren or Sakho....Originally posted by captainfog View PostComment
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His awareness at set pieces is embarrassing. His positioning is embarrassing too. £20m looks like a total waste at this point however it is early days and he may turn it around. Lets hope so because we have spent £38m on him and Sakho and right now neither have looked solid.
We really need to get a settled back 4 though and keep it settled. Chelsea have the same back 4 for every single league game and it works for them because they probably spend hours working on perfecting it.
At the moment we don't have any leader at the back, all just headless chickensComment
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