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    #2506
    Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
    Exactly - he should have been upgraded on in the summer, Klopp and his "name me 5 better centre backs" quote will continue to bite him in the arse every gaff him and Matip make.
    Not defending Klopp (too much), but that comment was clearly designed to boost Lovrens confidence, he can hardly go out after we've been chasing VVD all summer and say...

    "Sorry lads, we haven't landed out primary defensive target this summer so we are going to have to put up with that useless cunt Lovren again, my bad...".

    Ultimately we don't know what happened in the summer. Perhaps Klopp was told not to worry it is in the bag with Van Dyck? Perhaps we did have other targets but blew it by chasing VVD. Klopp is away on preseason, organising training etc. and doesn't handle all the negotiations. We obviously came close on a couple of transfers, but close is nothing.
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      #2507
      Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
      Exactly - he should have been upgraded on in the summer, Klopp and his "name me 5 better centre backs" quote will continue to bite him in the arse every gaff him and Matip make.
      I was more meaning the decision to play him pumped up with painkillers rather than play Klavan. If that's what happened.

      The decision not to sign another CB is another issue but again is a poor decision and one that seems to become more costly each week
      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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        #2508
        The big problem is not signing a CB in the summer. Lovren has concentration issues, but coming in for the odd few games is fine. However, he's in our main defensive line again, and expected to remain concentrated for high pressured games twice a week. It's bonkers. If he's in pain, it makes our decision not to sign a CB even worse.

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          #2509
          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
          Has there been anymore on the suggestion that he was playing on painkillers? Because while he was awful yesterday if that was the case then IMO the blame doesn't just lie with him, the manager has to take some of the blame for putting him in that situation.

          Regardless of that he is the weakest link and needs to be replaced ASAP
          I thought he actually said it himself. Takes painkillers before each start to ease it. Cant be exactly optimal for anyone.
          *Except Michael, who died.

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            #2510
            Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
            Not defending Klopp (too much), but that comment was clearly designed to boost Lovrens confidence, he can hardly go out after we've been chasing VVD all summer and say...

            "Sorry lads, we haven't landed out primary defensive target this summer so we are going to have to put up with that useless cunt Lovren again, my bad...".

            Ultimately we don't know what happened in the summer. Perhaps Klopp was told not to worry it is in the bag with Van Dyck? Perhaps we did have other targets but blew it by chasing VVD. Klopp is away on preseason, organising training etc. and doesn't handle all the negotiations. We obviously came close on a couple of transfers, but close is nothing.
            Fair enough Buzzo

            I have been beating the Lovren is ****e drum since we signed him and I wouldn't play him again. I have to also say I feel sorry for him, regardless of his £100k a week he had to shut down his social media accounts from what I read.

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              #2511
              Originally posted by Alex View Post
              I thought he actually said it himself. Takes painkillers before each start to ease it. Cant be exactly optimal for anyone.
              Is this a recent or long term thing? Yesterday was the first that I heard of it.
              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                #2512
                Originally posted by Phoenix07 View Post
                The big problem is not signing a CB in the summer. Lovren has concentration issues, but coming in for the odd few games is fine. However, he's in our main defensive line again, and expected to remain concentrated for high pressured games twice a week. It's bonkers.
                And we knew he'd have knocks, injuries, he also seems to pick up every virus or illness going. Even if him and Matip were world class we still needed another option. It's just a mental situation. Strange thing is he said we needed a stable defence on the day he was appointed but has barely spent a penny on it and played the same failures since. Hopefully we can muddle through till January, are only a few points off top 4 at worst and can get some players in but I'd be totally stunned if Feb 1st brought anything other than "you can't get the players in January"

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                  #2513
                  Lovren works at a pace faster than I can adapt to. I'm still still pissed off with him and cursing him about that Sevilla goal because something like would take me a few months, maybe a year to get over.

                  Yesterday's mistakes are in a FIFO queue. I just feel numb like I'm going to be more angry soon once I start dequeuing. If that makes sense. This is how bad Lovren is!
                  One tit for another.

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                    #2514
                    Originally posted by Rich View Post
                    Mp,mm,pomp
                    Originally posted by Rich View Post
                    My one year old got my iPad. Still, makes more sense than Lovren does...
                    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                      #2515
                      Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                      Fair enough Buzzo

                      I have been beating the Lovren is ****e drum since we signed him and I wouldn't play him again. I have to also say I feel sorry for him, regardless of his £100k a week he had to shut down his social media accounts from what I read.


                      The issue is Lovrens not good enough.

                      I think we all agree on that. It would be fascinating to know what went on in the summer, because we were clearly looking to upgrade.
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                        #2516
                        Originally posted by Buzzo View Post


                        The issue is Lovrens not good enough.

                        I think we all agree on that. It would be fascinating to know what went on in the summer, because we were clearly looking to upgrade.
                        Begs the question what BR saw in him to sign him and what Klopp saw in him to award him a new and improved contract....for all of Lovren's failings the blame also lies at Klopps feet.

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                          #2517
                          Originally posted by Fan65 View Post
                          That's a bit harsh

                          On his day Lovren's one of best centre backs in Europe if not the World.

                          The trouble is he had that best day years ago and he hasn't had one since.

                          And funnily enough it was the same day the Liverpool scouts went to see him play for Southampton.
                          No he ****ing isn't don't be stupid mate, he's ****ing atrocious.
                          Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


                          Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

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                            #2518
                            Originally posted by Slinky Skills View Post
                            No he ****ing isn't don't be stupid mate, he's ****ing atrocious.
                            He's not being entirely serious mate - read his post again!
                            What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins

                            Batman

                            F*** off!!!

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                              #2519
                              Originally posted by Bender View Post
                              Begs the question what BR saw in him to sign him and what Klopp saw in him to award him a new and improved contract....for all of Lovren's failings the blame also lies at Klopps feet.
                              Monday night football when Carra and Nev bigged him up after their performance vs United.

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                                #2520
                                Originally posted by Yozza View Post
                                He's not being entirely serious mate - read his post again!
                                **** yeah, just read it again lol
                                Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


                                Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

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