Danny Ings

[danperkins]

Why not? You were calling for us to sign Vardy who was about 28 before he became a decent PL striker.

Rare examples out there to be fair. Also Vardy wasn't out for over 2 years with career impacting injuries.

[RedReet]

Rare examples out there to be fair. Also Vardy wasn't out for over 2 years with career impacting injuries.

Which is why if he's over the injuries there is plenty of room for development because at 23 he should have been ready to kick on, but has been set back 2 years. Working with Klopp and playing with better players, there is no reason why he shouldn't.

[danperkins]

Don't really see your logic. So go forward with a **** bench and have nothing when there are injuries? When Mane went last season it derailed everything. That should be a good enough example, no? I'm not a manager, but I know I'd definitely prefer the option of playing Martial to Danny Ings.

Plenty of experienced strikers we can go for that have proven themselves in the top flight & could be used as squaddies. It's a nice notion to want Ings to succeed here but after 2 terrible injuries & not exactly blazing a trail before he even came here. It's wishful thinking IMO. Also the fact that he is still only 25, it will come to a point when he will want regular football after sitting on his arse for a few years & lets be honest he isn't replacing any of our front 3.

Sturridge and Origi IMO will be sold. Solanke or Ings may be kept but both aren't the standard we need right now & both also need regular football to improve. It's a difficult situation but personally I would rather we loaned one of them out, sold Sturridge and Origi & bought in some proven strikers or young talent.

Likes of Vardy, Mertens, Gamiero, Volland, Bacca. Experience playing and scoring in the top leagues. I would even look for older guys just to cover the bench for one season likes of Jonas, Adruiz types seasoned veterans rather than Sturrdige or Origi. Proven goal scorers that would take a pay day to sit on our bench but if needed can provide experience and quality. Obviously i'm throwing out names here but we cannot rely on the 3 lads up top all the time as they will get injured and burned out.

[danperkins]

Which is why if he's over the injuries there is plenty of room for development because at 23 he should have been ready to kick on, but has been set back 2 years. Working with Klopp and playing with better players, there is no reason why he shouldn't.

Only time will tell if he can get over those injuries, two very serious injuries back to back. His game was based on work rate ... it may be impacted by those knee injuries. Also up to this point he hasn't really done much in his career to think that he can succeed at LFC, he is 26 in a few months. IMO the guy needs games, he won't get them with us as he is not good enough to be a starter or even push to be a starter against our current front 3. I would much rather get rid and buy a player that can compete with our lads up top and give us much stronger options. It is a big risk having to rely on Ings at the moment, IMO we should loan him out and see how he goes. If he gets up to scratch great we can either sell him for profit or bring him back into the fold.

[RedReet]

Only time will tell if he can get over those injuries, two very serious injuries back to back. His game was based on work rate ... it may be impacted by those knee injuries. Also up to this point he hasn't really done much in his career to think that he can succeed at LFC, he is 26 in a few months. IMO the guy needs games, he won't get them with us as he is not good enough to be a starter or even push to be a starter against our current front 3. I would much rather get rid and buy a player that can compete with our lads up top and give us much stronger options. It is a big risk having to rely on Ings at the moment, IMO we should loan him out and see how he goes. If he gets up to scratch great we can either sell him for profit or bring him back into the fold.

Think people are too obsessed by age. Look at the improvement of Firmino as a CF in his mid 20's. If we decide to keep Ings and he makes it through pre-season unscathed, I think he could be a useful player next year.

[baitman]

We could have Sturridge sitting on our bench, who is a better player than some of teh names you mentioned, but Klopp has decided that Ings is better suited to our system. It's not just about having the best players, as Klopp has repeatedly shown in his time here.

has been a better player, but

[RedReet]

has been a better player, but

Well he included Danny ****ing Welbeck in his list.

[danperkins]

Think people are too obsessed by age. Look at the improvement of Firmino as a CF in his mid 20's. If we decide to keep Ings and he makes it through pre-season unscathed, I think he could be a useful player next year.

Not his age mate just the fact that he hasn't really done much up to this point in his career & that's without the injuries. I love a good underdog success story but I just don't see it with Ings. Capable of doing ok for a lower prem side but not for a top 4 side.

In saying that I would much rather have him than Sturridge, Origi or Solanke, so in that respect I would keep him but if we do keep and don't strengthen the forward line in the window and Ings breaks down.... we are left up **** creek relying on the front 3 to not get injured or burn out.

IMO I would much rather we had a 4th forward that genuinely has the quality to push the other lads for a first team spot or if needed from bench would provide real quality up top.

[Exiled_red]

Plenty of experienced strikers we can go for that have proven themselves in the top flight & could be used as squaddies. It's a nice notion to want Ings to succeed here but after 2 terrible injuries & not exactly blazing a trail before he even came here. It's wishful thinking IMO. Also the fact that he is still only 25, it will come to a point when he will want regular football after sitting on his arse for a few years & lets be honest he isn't replacing any of our front 3.

Sturridge and Origi IMO will be sold. Solanke or Ings may be kept but both aren't the standard we need right now & both also need regular football to improve. It's a difficult situation but personally I would rather we loaned one of them out, sold Sturridge and Origi & bought in some proven strikers or young talent.

Likes of Vardy, Mertens, Gamiero, Volland, Bacca. Experience playing and scoring in the top leagues. I would even look for older guys just to cover the bench for one season likes of Jonas, Adruiz types seasoned veterans rather than Sturrdige or Origi. Proven goal scorers that would take a pay day to sit on our bench but if needed can provide experience and quality. Obviously i'm throwing out names here but we cannot rely on the 3 lads up top all the time as they will get injured and burned out.

His career prior to joining us needs to be put into context in the 2 seasons before joining us he was 21-23 years old and scored over 20 goals in the championship one year and 11 PL goals in a newly promoted struggling side, while they aren't stellar numbers taking age and the side he was playing in that's decent enough.

All the injuries he has had may have affected his ability, we still don't know. He was signed as a squad player, if he could chip in with about 10 goals a season from the bench and the cup games he's likely to play that would be a good return IMO. As his role should be as a 5th or 6th in the pecking order (meaning we need at least 2 players to be out for him to start)

The thing that I don't get about all the "sell him" comments is what do you do about replacements? (This is not just aimed at you). You still need about 25 players in your squad, the more you need to buy, the thinner you spread your budget to bring in everyone that you need. Keep some of the squad players and focus your spending on a few players that will make a big difference. These days a club like us would probably end up spending £15-20m on a like-for-like replacement of Ings, improving on him would cost us more.

[RedReet]

Still think this lad could end up really special.

But I'll hold off the praise until I've seen him get a proper chance to see how cool he stays.

saviour of LFC... smug face

Ppl were saying that Ings wasn't Liverpool quality. No he's a cut above at the moment. ��

Looks like he's going to be a god here.

Been very impressed allbeit in a small sample he's played so far and in pre season.

I didn't want Ings and I'm happy to be shown to be wrong on what I've seen so far. Better than than the other way round. Benteke I still worry about, not his fault but I can foresee Sturridge/Ings being a better pairing (assuming they get the chance to become such).

Except he works his socks off (like Kuyt) and loves to try to score goals, i.e. doesn't sit back 25-30 yards demanding the ball. He gets himself right next to the goalie. He's a great foil for Sturridge who can use his intelligent movement slightly further away.

I can't see him being anything other than popular with the fans. Hopefully because of the goals too.

Its good to see he is proving some of the doubters wrong. He will end up being a cult figure

It's a good start from him. Reminds me of Kuyt with his willingness to work hard. If he can get Kuyts habit of scoring in big games he'll do for me.

Impressed. He's earned a good session on the fruit machine.

never any doubts about this lad.

his effort and drive will see him become one of our main men.

Yep Bellamy & Kuyt comparisons I can see that

He also reminds me a lot of Keegan

Hes enthusiastic, and works hard buzzing around in and out of possession. If he could improve his technique to the extent that Keegan did then he will be a fantastic signing for us

Very early days but he looks a shrewd signing so far.

Amen to that chief.

Loving Ings

Some of his control is ****ing amazing, wasn't expecting that!! Even Mattshark will have to praise him soon at this rate!

He looks great doesn't he. Gives everything. Having him, Sturridge and Benteke is going to be a real bonus for Klopp

Two bad injuries since then, but IF he can stay fit (which he has done all season) and if he improves under Klopp like most of our attackers have, no reason he can't push on to be a decent squad player. He was a good player before he got injured, despite how people like to remember it, and a good addition off the field (helping Gomez etc.), so I hope he is still here next year.

[SB]

Which is why if he's over the injuries there is plenty of room for development because at 23 he should have been ready to kick on, but has been set back 2 years. Working with Klopp and playing with better players, there is no reason why he shouldn't.

Klopp has improved most of our underachieving players so why not Danny?

[Kenneth]

Why not someone else who can shoot? He has plenty of good traits, but he's just not quite there in terms of quality.

[Roboklopp]

His career prior to joining us needs to be put into context in the 2 seasons before joining us he was 21-23 years old and scored over 20 goals in the championship one year and 11 PL goals in a newly promoted struggling side, while they aren't stellar numbers taking age and the side he was playing in that's decent enough.

All the injuries he has had may have affected his ability, we still don't know. He was signed as a squad player, if he could chip in with about 10 goals a season from the bench and the cup games he's likely to play that would be a good return IMO. As his role should be as a 5th or 6th in the pecking order (meaning we need at least 2 players to be out for him to start)

The thing that I don't get about all the "sell him" comments is what do you do about replacements? (This is not just aimed at you). You still need about 25 players in your squad, the more you need to buy, the thinner you spread your budget to bring in everyone that you need. Keep some of the squad players and focus your spending on a few players that will make a big difference. These days a club like us would probably end up spending £15-20m on a like-for-like replacement of Ings, improving on him would cost us more.

Tend to agree with this, altho I have a bit of a soft spot for him. If we’re playing with 3 up top (or however you wanna look at it), we really need 6 players that can cover those positions. Reckon he has enough about him to be in the 5th or 6th role there. We ain’t citeh, gotta pace our spending and grow the squad depth & quality at a realistic rate. There’s other positions to prioritise upgrading. We do need more quality above him in the pecking order though.

[vlahka]

No reason for us to hamper ourselves longer than we already have waiting for him to stay fit and possibly come good. Send off on loan, bring someone else in who can do something, or one of the younger reserves. I'm still happy with my original Sell preference.

[danperkins]

His career prior to joining us needs to be put into context in the 2 seasons before joining us he was 21-23 years old and scored over 20 goals in the championship one year and 11 PL goals in a newly promoted struggling side, while they aren't stellar numbers taking age and the side he was playing in that's decent enough.

All the injuries he has had may have affected his ability, we still don't know. He was signed as a squad player, if he could chip in with about 10 goals a season from the bench and the cup games he's likely to play that would be a good return IMO. As his role should be as a 5th or 6th in the pecking order (meaning we need at least 2 players to be out for him to start)

The thing that I don't get about all the "sell him" comments is what do you do about replacements? (This is not just aimed at you). You still need about 25 players in your squad, the more you need to buy, the thinner you spread your budget to bring in everyone that you need. Keep some of the squad players and focus your spending on a few players that will make a big difference. These days a club like us would probably end up spending £15-20m on a like-for-like replacement of Ings, improving on him would cost us more.

don't get me wrong I wouldn't be upset if he stayed and warmed the bench once we add to the depth up top as if would be naive to rely 100% on him after these injuries. Our front 3 are solid starters, anyone other forwards who come in knows they are going to have a hard time getting in. We have been lucky this season with our injuries to the front lads, wishful thinking it will be like that next season. We will clear out several loan players and some dead wood, I would like us to add some experienced quality even if it is a short term thing. Imagine having someone like Mertens, Vardy or Gamiero instead of Ings/Solanke to step in. Sturridge is massive wages off the books so that's a nice carrot to dangle for a potential replacement.

We are a club on the up, we should be able to attract a better standard of player than we have in a long time. I mentioned a short term squad buy likes of Jonas... just seen there he is 34 and has 33 league goals this season!!

Anyways Ings needs games and he is not going to get regular football with us. If he is happy to sit on the bench and play a role, I suppose he wouldn't be the worst option but I do think one of him or Solanke will go on loan in the summer.