i feel ashamed to say it but i have to....

[Shaggy]

What is peoples views on joaquin on here?He is in the same situation as pennant but has been even worse then pennant so I take it everyone thinks he is crap too?

Not relevant and a bit of a heat deflection if you ask me.

[Slim]

Not relevant and a bit of a heat deflection if you ask me.

I'd agree but seeing as he asked here goes.....Joaquin may not be playing well at the minute but Joaquin was a very good player once, whereas Pennant was never any good!

[redlancer]

as Joaquin looks like Stevie and plays wide right.
is it a case of if the face fits.

or are they like twins and feel each other pain.

[tomasjj]

poor thread

wait until season is over and he has had a proper run in the team.

Sensible.
And right.

[Bob]

Last one...Kromkamp or Pennant at RM ?

Wall Flower or Pennant?

[paulcooper4]

Wall Flower or Pennant?

[dww]

He was dreadful against Sheff United though, and I didn't think he had the concentration levels to make a top drawer Right back.

Everyone was **** vs Sheffield. He probably also had his mind on leaving.

I think he was a good prospect but like you believe he doesn't have the mental capabilities to make it at the top level. Maybe going back to Holland will sort him out though.

[JermainePennant]

Not relevant and a bit of a heat deflection if you ask me.

What I am trying to work out is why people are saying pennant isnt good enough after only being here a short time while still want joaquin when he has been worse then pennant at his new club and was crap all last season aswell.

[dww]

What I am trying to work out is why people are saying pennant isnt good enough after only being here a short time while still want joaquin when he has been worse then pennant at his new club and was crap all last season aswell.

It's partly the age old problem of it sounding better if it comes from abroad and partly that not seeing Joaquin every week means people only remember the highlights of his career. To be fair though I haven't seen many people calling for Joaquin to come in of late.

I think that the crap form of the team coupled to the pre-season optimism has led people to judge our new signings even more harshly than usual. Unfortunately as Pennant has the least excuse - he has performed in the PL before and cost a lot more than he would have a year earlier he is the one most people highlight.

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

People keep saying pennant has no excuse because he played in the prem and saying he has no excuse so why are there not threads on here like this about players like carragher who has no excuse, finnan also had a crap first season and went on to do well for us,pennant has not even been here that long.

It's impossible to take you seriously with that username, sorry.

sits back and sniggers at the hypocrisy of it all...

[honk]

i think tonight is the best i have seen him play. he has been up for it and be effective. hope he carries on in the second half.

[andyinswinton]

What I am trying to work out is why people are saying pennant isnt good enough after only being here a short time while still want joaquin when he has been worse then pennant at his new club and was crap all last season aswell.

Two words. Football manager