Klopp's Liverpool Style Guide to Winning Games

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Genuine question - what's Klopp's transfer history like?

Notable transfers

08/09

Subotic - £3m
Santana - £1.5m

09/10

Hummels - £3m
Barrios - £3m
Bender - £1m
Grosskreutz - Free

10/11

Lewandowski - £3.5m
Kagawa - Free
Piszczek - Free

11/12

Gundogan - £4m
Perisic - £3.5m

12/13

Reus - £12m
Bittencourt - £1m

13/14

Mkhitaryan - £20m
Aubameyang - £10m
Sokratis - £7m

14/15

Immobile - £13m
Kampl - £8.5m
Ginter - £7m
Ramos - £7m
Kagawa - £5.5m
Sahin - £5m

[redmike65]

Looking at that list - the more they spent the less impressive the return on the investment!

Liverpool need to spend as little as possible!

[el matador]

Notable transfers

08/09

Subotic - £3m
Santana - £1.5m

09/10

Hummels - £3m
Barrios - £3m
Bender - £1m
Grosskreutz - Free

10/11

Lewandowski - £3.5m
Kagawa - Free
Piszczek - Free

11/12

Gundogan - £4m
Perisic - £3.5m

12/13

Reus - £12m
Bittencourt - £1m

13/14

Mkhitaryan - £20m
Aubameyang - £10m
Sokratis - £7m

14/15

Immobile - £13m
Kampl - £8.5m
Ginter - £7m
Ramos - £7m
Kagawa - £5.5m
Sahin - £5m

all the signings leading up the last season look excellent. its only immobile and ramos on that list who you would say were complete ****. Even then immobile came with a very good record.

[Rigadon]

Thanks all So, generally very good? However, players were bought under a DoF (transfer committee ) system?

What went wrong in 2014/15? Apparently, Dortmund are doing very well again (since Klopp left).

[redmike65]

Thanks all So, generally very good? However, players were bought under a DoF (transfer committee ) system?

What went wrong in 2014/15? Apparently, Dortmund are doing very well again (since Klopp left).

As mentioned two poor strikers were bought to replace Lew and then they hit an injury crisis of Arsenal in winter proportions!

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

all the signings leading up the last season look excellent. its only immobile and ramos on that list who you would say were complete ****. Even then immobile came with a very good record.

Yeah its a good track record and I guess eventually you'll have an abject failure. That'd be Immobile.

[Rigadon]

As mentioned two poor strikers were bought to replace Lew and then they hit an injury crisis of Arsenal in winter proportions!

Thanks Sounds like Dortmund's season was similar to ours (see Balotelli and Lambert )

[el matador]

Thanks Sounds like Dortmund's season was similar to ours (see Balotelli and Lambert )

not quite. they had an epic injury list and we were just epically ****.

[DannyMan2006]

Thanks all So, generally very good? However, players were bought under a DoF (transfer committee ) system?

What went wrong in 2014/15? Apparently, Dortmund are doing very well again (since Klopp left).

Dortmund are miles away from Bayern this season, but tbf Bayern have won 8 out of 8, including a 5-1 win over Dortmund last time out.

Dortmund I feel are suffering as a result of success. They were the best team in the league and genuine challengers to Bayern for the other years. But I feel a hint of resignation crept in when Bayern signed Goetze and then Lewandowski off them. I think as soon as that happened it became harder to motivate the players and they suffered last year as a result.

They started the season well, but Bayern were up to the challenge and when you have to be perfect to keep up, a slight dip in form or results will kill you. High pressure to deal with.

[Rigadon]

not quite. they had an epic injury list and we were just epically ****.

Dortmund are miles away from Bayern this season, but tbf Bayern have won 8 out of 8, including a 5-1 win over Dortmund last time out.

Dortmund I feel are suffering as a result of success. They were the best team in the league and genuine challengers to Bayern for the other years. But I feel a hint of resignation crept in when Bayern signed Goetze and then Lewandowski off them. I think as soon as that happened it became harder to motivate the players and they suffered last year as a result.

They started the season well, but Bayern were up to the challenge and when you have to be perfect to keep up, a slight dip in form or results will kill you. High pressure to deal with.

Would you say the Bundesliga (i.e. quality of teams and style of play) is similar to the Premiership?

[DannyMan2006]

Thanks Sounds like Dortmund's season was similar to ours (see Balotelli and Lambert )

not quite. they had an epic injury list and we were just epically ****.

I think the difference is that they were still playing well, they just weren't as clinical in either penalty box. A stats guy could or tell it better, but they basically scored goals at a lower ratio than should be expected with the chances created & the opposite was true at the other end, with the opposition scoring more than would be expected from ratio of chances created.

In simpler terms, they had less luck.

[DannyMan2006]

Would you say the Bundesliga (i.e. quality of teams and style of play) is similar to the Premiership?

As shown in Europe in recent years, I'd say the Bundesliga is of a slightly higher quality. I don't watch as much German football as I do English, so couldn't give anything more than a basic comparison on styles of play. But I'd say in general English teams are more open and less organised defensively than German teams, but this is generally because teams are more expansive and gung ho in the Premier League.

[Rigadon]

I think the difference is that they were still playing well, they just weren't as clinical in either penalty box. A stats guy could or tell it better, but they basically scored goals at a lower ratio than should be expected with the chances created & the opposite was true at the other end, with the opposition scoring more than would be expected from ratio of chances created.

In simpler terms, they had less luck.

Ok - maybe I've got this completely wrong (I probably have) but Dortmund under Klopp (style of play etc) sounds very similar to Liverpool under Rodgers? Am I being stupid? (Mattshark would say yes )

[redmike65]

I think the difference is that they were still playing well, they just weren't as clinical in either penalty box. A stats guy could or tell it better, but they basically scored goals at a lower ratio than should be expected with the chances created & the opposite was true at the other end, with the opposition scoring more than would be expected from ratio of chances created.

In simpler terms, they had less luck.

They had a Liverpool/Dalglish 2011/12 season in that regard - hitting the woodwork, always finding the keeper etc.

[Rigadon]

As shown in Europe in recent years, I'd say the Bundesliga is of a slightly higher quality. I don't watch as much German football as I do English, so couldn't give anything more than a basic comparison on styles of play. But I'd say in general English teams are more open and less organised defensively than German teams, but this is generally because teams are more expansive and gung ho in the Premier League.

Well, we definitely need a manager (coaching team) that can organise our defence (make us tighter at the back). However, Klopp appears to be quite 'gung ho' in terms of his attacking philosophy. Interesting times ahead