[PL] Sunderland (H): Post Match Thread

[danperkins]

We can't just rebuild a squad every other year can we? Look at how Spurs have steadied the ship after spunking so much money on seemingly average players when they sold Bale. They aren't able to spend that much nowadays and the appointment of Pochettino has allowed them to bring in some young players and now they're in with a sniff of winning the league.

It's doom and gloom at the moment but if we hold our nerve, we'll get better, with mostly the same team we currently have. I'd replace Mignolet though.

No we can't just rebuild every year but under a capable manager it is possible to rebuild in the right way and not just spunk hundreds of millions on absolute garbage.... like the previous managers.

Klopp will get his chance to rebuild. I don't think he's the messiah or anything like that but he has proven himself on the big stage and clearly has an eye for a player & I would be very surprised if will put up with the sub standard plodders we currently have. he's stuck between a rock and a hard place at the moment.

We do need a rebuild, it's ridiculous having to do it every summer but the major difference this time is that we won't be losing anyone we'll miss. Every summer the rebuild comes when one of out top players is snatched away, this time we decide who we want gone.

It has to be done IMO and will be.

[BobTheCharmer]

The arse end will fall completely out of it one day though. The only thing short of that I can see helping ticket pricing is if safe standing is introduced.

I hope it's soon and we can all put this ****ing charade to bed and get on with our lives.

[Red_Polo]

I hope it's soon and we can all put this ****ing charade to bed and get on with our lives.

Something about the hysterically defeatist tone there sorta cheered me up

[BobTheCharmer]

Something about the hysterically defeatist tone there sorta cheered me up

I've had enough of it. When I heard sunderland equalised I smiled. It doesn't bother me anymore. It's ****ing pointless. I've wasted far too much energy over the years, in 3 months I'll turn ****ing 40. I don't want to waste whatever time I have left on these *******s.

[Red_Polo]

I've had enough of it. When I heard sunderland equalised I smiled. It doesn't bother me anymore. It's ****ing pointless. I've wasted far too much energy over the years, in 3 months I'll turn ****ing 40. I don't want to waste whatever time I have left on these *******s.

Aye. Better to laugh than cry

[cream]

Looks like the players walked on 77 too...

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[vlahka]

I've had enough of it. When I heard sunderland equalised I smiled. It doesn't bother me anymore. It's ****ing pointless. I've wasted far too much energy over the years, in 3 months I'll turn ****ing 40. I don't want to waste whatever time I have left on these *******s.

I did that a couple months ago myself. Sadly even though I do the smiling thing too, you dont stop raging at times. So enjoy your 40th cause its going to be like your 39th and previous!

[Fosterbloke]

Woke up, saw the result, laughed. In fact I was more interested in Leicester's result than ours.

Sounds like Firmino played well but that about it. Any other stand out players?

As for the fans, I hope they're successful in making their point. £77 is over $100 for me and if spent that on a concert only to hear a drunk musician with a sore throat backed up by year one students playing instruments, I'd walk out and want my money back.

With the ridiculous money that's coming into the game from Sky, they could easily subsidise ticket prices. Fans would have more money for food, drink, merchandising which would improve profits anyway. Currently they're as bad as cinemas where you buy a ticket but smuggle in your snacks.

[ChesterDave]

The scabs who didn't walk got their just deserts watching that horrific last 10 minutes.

Whats got your goat? Its not like you to be hysterically critical.

[Norbs]

Woke up, saw the result, laughed. In fact I was more interested in Leicester's result than ours.

Sounds like Firmino played well but that about it. Any other stand out players?

As for the fans, I hope they're successful in making their point. £77 is over $100 for me and if spent that on a concert only to hear a drunk musician with a sore throat backed up by year one students playing instruments, I'd walk out and want my money back.

With the ridiculous money that's coming into the game from Sky, they could easily subsidise ticket prices. Fans would have more money for food, drink, merchandising which would improve profits anyway. Currently they're as bad as cinemas where you buy a ticket but smuggle in your snacks.

We did well to break down a typically unambitious Alladyce side. Moreno was stupid to give away the free kick and as soon as they scored they upped their tempo and always looked likely to score again. We did that normal thing where we just didn't clear it and knew they'd carve an opening.

Should never have allowed them back in to the game. Our approach was very naive

[Slinky Skills]

Jesus

https://twitter.com/AnfieldHQ/status/696048510303629312

It's only cos he's one of the few that actually give a ****.

I mentioned it earlier but what should have happened is all the team should have walked off at 77 mins.

The game would have been boycotted but at least it would have proved the players actually ****ing cared.

A lot more walked than I expected today, my older brother came round with his lad. He's a Liverpool fan but didn't have a clue about the protest, he couldn't believe it.

A lad in work got a ticket for it yesterday. I said to him I hope you're walking out at 77 mins. Whether he listened to me is another matter altogether as he's only a young lad but I hope he had the sense to walk.

I've had enough of it. When I heard sunderland equalised I smiled. It doesn't bother me anymore. It's ****ing pointless. I've wasted far too much energy over the years, in 3 months I'll turn ****ing 40. I don't want to waste whatever time I have left on these *******s.

[The_weatherman]

I think there'll be at least 5 new faces in the first team and 2/3 squad additions, I just hope it's not the transfer committee signing the players but ones that have been identified by Klopp and his team.

5/6 is an enormous turnover, more so if we do end up playing the early qualifying rounds of the Europa league next year - it will cause us all sorts of logistical nightmares to bed in new players amidst the pre-season training. And there is no guarantee of getting the bulk of quality players in the market.

We have some decent players but the reality is we have not been able to call on them for big parts of the season due to injuries. We've lost pace and goals upfront and we need to rectify this and also a new goalkeeper. But this squad has got the basis of a decent squad, amidst all the doom and gloom.

In Klopps first years at Dortmund there was a massive turnaround of players, in his first summer he got rid of players like Degen, Kovac, Pienaar, Buckley and Petric, all in all 13 players left and 9 arrived, Subotic among them, granted not all seniors, I think.

The following summer 7 players arrived like Hummels, Barrios, Bender and Grosskreautz, 6 left.

Third summer saw six players arrive, Lewandowski, Kagawa, Piszczek among them and another raft leaving.

Almost all of his summers have seen some upheaval, I think 5 or 6 players in and out are not out of the picture.

[wiw]

In Klopps first years at Dortmund there was a massive turnaround of players, in his first summer he got rid of players like Degen, Kovac, Pienaar, Buckley and Petric, all in all 13 players left and 9 arrived, Subotic among them, granted not all seniors, I think.

The following summer 7 players arrived like Hummels, Barrios, Bender and Grosskreautz, 6 left.

Third summer saw six players arrive, Lewandowski, Kagawa, Piszczek among them and another raft leaving.

Almost all of his summers have seen some upheaval, I think 5 or 6 players in and out are not out of the picture.

I'm glad you know so much about it weatherman I was googling about this yesterday as someone else mentioned Klopp and his high turnaround of players in his Dortmund days but couldn't find much. To me this is promising and the only real way our team and fans are going to get the shot in the arm needed. Klopp needs the players to fit his style and the fans need some new players to look at and get excited about. Sick of watching the same ****.

[danperkins]

In Klopps first years at Dortmund there was a massive turnaround of players, in his first summer he got rid of players like Degen, Kovac, Pienaar, Buckley and Petric, all in all 13 players left and 9 arrived, Subotic among them, granted not all seniors, I think.

The following summer 7 players arrived like Hummels, Barrios, Bender and Grosskreautz, 6 left.

Third summer saw six players arrive, Lewandowski, Kagawa, Piszczek among them and another raft leaving.

Almost all of his summers have seen some upheaval, I think 5 or 6 players in and out are not out of the picture.

[The_weatherman]

I'm glad you know so much about it weatherman I was googling about this yesterday as someone else mentioned Klopp and his high turnaround of players in his Dortmund days but couldn't find much. To me this is promising and the only real way our team and fans are going to get the shot in the arm needed. Klopp needs the players to fit his style and the fans need some new players to look at and get excited about. Sick of watching the same ****.

I just googled it I remember I read about it when he was announced that he let several experienced players leave, but I just checked on transfermarkt

IMO some managers can manage a high turnover, those who complicate football however cant.