That Kolorov shot moved loads. Same can’t be said of the Bale shot. He just totally misjudged it.
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It's more his technique was same for both. It swerved but he has a clear sight of it. Rubbish on both efforts.Originally posted by Rich View PostAlways borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar WildeComment
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Also, I’m not aware of this happening with other keepers (the moving ball). OK it moves, but you need to follow the movement, adapt your technique. Some coaching up issues here surely?
This will either be the making of Karius as he develops an inner steel to deal with it, or the breaking of him.
In terms of his career with us, it reminds me a bit of David James, crowds eagerly cheering as he went to claim crosses. Karius reputation will be used against us now, with opposing crowds. I think he can resurrect his career. I just can’t see it being with us.
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He needs to move on now for his sake and ours. Fresh start.
Achterberg too, the keeping situation at the club has been substandard for too long, time for a change.Comment
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I do hope arrests and examples are made of cowards who send death threats online.
Nice words from Mignolet etc.
Merseyside Police says it is aware of death threats made to Liverpool goalkeeper Loris Karius after the Champions League final.
The German, 24, and his family were the subject of threats after his two mistakes helped Real Madrid to a 3-1 win over the Reds in Kiev on Saturday.
Karius was in tears at the final whistle and apologised to fans.
"We take social media posts of this nature extremely seriously. Offences will be investigated," police said.
"Officers are aware of a number of comments and threats made via social media.
"Merseyside Police would like to remind social media users than any offences including malicious communications and threatening behaviour will be investigated."
The German gifted Real striker Karim Benzema an easy goal for the opener in Kiev on Saturday night.
Karius later allowed a Gareth Bale shot to squirm in for Real's third as the Spanish club won their third consecutive Champions League trophy.
On Sunday, he posted on social media: "I'm infinitely sorry to my team-mates, for you fans, and for all the staff."
Liverpool have tools to help Karius - Mignolet
Liverpool goalkeeper Simon Mignolet has backed Karius to bounce back from his Champions League nightmare.
"If he wants to talk then of course I will be there," said the Belgian, who was on the bench for the game in Kiev. "Every goalkeeper can relate to him.
"I've been in this situation before myself and those kind of things you deal with yourself.
"The only thing I told him is that there is a reason we got to this final, and why we played in this final, so think about that.
"But of course it is very difficult to say anything to him and to let him grasp it.
"Liverpool stands for unity, Liverpool stands for 'all together'. I think that will not only be the right ideal for Liverpool, it has always been their history and will always be their future."
Liverpool's goalkeeping coach John Achterberg tried to console Karius after the match.
"Obviously it is not good what happened. It was unlucky for him it happened in this game," said the Dutchman.
"I just tried to pick his head up and show him you have to carry on with it. It is hard to take but that is life in football."
Defender Dejan Lovren said it would be counter-productive to focus blame on Karius.
"It's easy to blame someone, but we are in the same ship together and everyone gave him the best words that they can. He will come back strong," Lovren said.
"Don't make massive stories about that. Of course it's big because it's a final - but everyone makes mistakes."Modifying post.Comment
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Good, it's just a game of footie for ****s sake.Was muß, das muß.Comment
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The tears inside Kiev’s Olympic Stadium did not dribble only on to the already sodden shirts of those on the pitch. Near the half way line behind Jürgen Klopp’s dugout, sat two family members that had travelled to Ukraine to watch Loris Karius. The sight of his mother staring into middle distance, looking away from the game while it was still going on as she held his sobbing girlfriend prompted Klopp’s wife Ulla to move a few rows and try to offer some reassurance. At the end of the game, while Karius lay on the floor the three women – all of them connected by the desperation of it all – stood there, wrapped in each other’s arms.
Karius is a confident character and he is smart. At Manchester City, where he spent several years of his youth, the coaches there – as well as some teammates – were intrigued by his Lehmanneqsue sense of place, which can translate either as a healthy arrogance to those who believe in you, or border-line delusion to those who do not.
Karius’ future will be decided by Klopp, who had decided late last autumn to give the rest of the season to prove himself capable of seizing an opportunity that Simon Mignolet was not able to, despite the ridiculous number of chances that came his way.
Mignolet will leave Anfield over the next few months and it is likely that Danny Ward will follow him, the Welsh international who has played only one League Cup game since returning to Melwood from Huddersfield following a successful year in the Championship where he proved himself as a crucial member of a promotion winning team.
Liverpool, then, have arrived at a junction where they might need to sign as many as three new goalkeepers in one summer. There is a belief inside the club’s academy that Kamil Grabara, the Poland under-17 international, could emerge but as Karius has reminded, the goalkeeping position at a club the size of Liverpool is a role where expectations dictate that you are not really allowed to learn on the job. If you are young, and Karius is by goalkeeping standards – he will be 25 next month – then you have to learn quickly in order to gain the trust of the Kop.
The influence of the crowd in relation to any goalkeeper’s progress cannot be ignored, as David James will testify. Inside Kiev’s Boryspil Airport, the Liverpool supporters on Sunday morning in discussion about the events of the night before were sympathetic towards the emotional challenges that Karius will face and yet the consensus was that he should not remain as the club’s number one.
John W. Henry had name-checked sporting director Michael Edwards as being a major influence in Liverpool’s surge to the Champions League final during an interview held over email with the Associated Press last week. While Edwards had always pushed for the signing of Mohamed Salah and he has been justified in that judgement, he also suggested Karius in the course of the 2015/16 season and this proposal received support from Klopp, who had not signed a new first choice goalkeeper since his time at Mainz. At Borussia Dortmund, he inherited Roman Weidenfeller and it was a relationship that worked.
The question marks about Karius related to his career inside the German national team system, which has not progressed beyond one appearance at under-21 level. Like Klopp, Karius’ platform had been at Mainz following his departure from City in 2011 but unlike Klopp, Karius did not have the benefit of another move before returning to England and it is unlikely Klopp would have been ready for Anfield without his experience in Dortmund first.
At the start of Fenway Sports Group’s reign, there was a misconceived notion that Liverpool could over-pay in transfer fees for young players, give them lower wages, and it would somehow all work out, winning trophies. It was a failed concept because as it proved with Raheem Sterling – and Philippe Coutinho to some extent – the best young players are not willing to hang around to wait for those around them for a collective maturity to be reached.
Sadio Mané and Mohamed Salah had bits to learn and things to prove when they signed in successive summers and each have contributed enormously towards pushing Liverpool on in a way that might not have been possible if they were a few years younger at the point of arrival. Karius was 23 when he moved to Merseyside but again, cliché sometimes meets reality in that important football matches have often been determined through history by goalkeepers that are much nearer their peak.
Even before the nightmare of Kiev, Karius’ future has been in the balance because Klopp is seeking improvement, whether or not whoever comes in arrives as first choice. Though a move for Jack Butland was denied by Liverpool, there has long been talk inside Stoke City’s dressing room that he will end up at Anfield.
Considering Pepe Reina replaced Jerzy Dudek barely a month after his saves in a penalty shoot-out won Liverpool their last Champions League title in 2005, Klopp – as much as he should deal with the matter with Karius sensitively – will surely now recognise that the position has the potential to define whether memories from his era is brushed in silver or gold.
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Probably already posted but:
https://mobile.twitter.com/optajoe/s...75428828598272Loris Karius has made more errors leading to goals tonight (2) than he did in his previous 32 competitive apps for Liverpool this season in 2017-18.
He’s had a very good season. Very unfortunate during the final.Another MASSIVE game
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The universe ****ed him.Comment
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& us.
3rd place. Worst champions ever.
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Didn't Moreno have similar figures this season?One tit for another.
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Originally posted by BigChief View Post
From far less minutes played though.I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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