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the fact that it took days for this to even be mentioned shows how little people thought of it
It was mentioned after the match in the final thread.
The problem is I don't know how many people were aware of it, I saw it at the time and was pissed off but the TV never showed any replays so I wondered if it wasn't as bad as I first thought because no-one was mentioning it. I still haven't seen good footage of it but it's only a couple of minutes between that and the mistake for the first goal. I can easily believe that it had it played a part in his performance after that.
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
I disagree that he was a flapper or insecure before the final, in fact he had looked great since becoming our no.1 keeper and was my main candidate for our future first keeper.
I'm no medical expert so I can't say anything about the validity of these results, but I imagine that a concussive blow to the head with an elbow two minutes before a mistake would have something to do with it.
I actually for the first time ever think a player deserves to have his legs snapped in half and never play again.
Everyone saying we need to be more ruthless with underperforming players, have you considered this is what led to players like De Bruyne leaving their clubs too early?
It was mentioned after the match in the final thread.
The problem is I don't know how many people were aware of it, I saw it at the time and was pissed off but the TV never showed any replays so I wondered if it wasn't as bad as I first thought because no-one was mentioning it. I still haven't seen good footage of it but it's only a couple of minutes between that and the mistake for the first goal. I can easily believe that it had it played a part in his performance after that.
I saw it and they did show replays in Mexico and I remember being even more pissed off after seeing it was Ramos again.
Everyone saying we need to be more ruthless with underperforming players, have you considered this is what led to players like De Bruyne leaving their clubs too early?
before the final, I was fairly happy with him being number 1 next season unless we got in a rockstar of a keeper, loathed to be fickle on 1 game despite its magnitude.
If we cant get or afford Oblak/Allison, no point getting a Butland.
Klopp has given roads back to the first team for Mignolet and Moreno, where it seemed impossible.
I'm pretty much certain that Klopp will stick with Karius and have said that from the day of the final so I think we are all going to have to get used to that and get being Karius whatever our personal thoughts.
If we have a chance to get a top top keeper I'm all for it and would have been all for it even if he had a man of match performance and we had number 6 in the cabinet.
But if it's just going you be getting another meh keeper or latest fad then I think he's done enough since being made number one to be given more time, especially now that he has a medical report saying he was concussed.
I think we embrace the stick if he stays and say how **** the opposition is when they cannot beat a team with a **** keeper.
I'm sure someone posted something about him having the best goalie stats in the Champions League up until the final?
Allison conceded 7 against us in 2 games plus the rest against Barcelona etc and he's supposed to be the number one target to replace Karius.
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