Hull post match post mortem

[Jaymo]

Horror show again.

At the end of the day, there's 19 teams we can play against, only 6 of the 19 we can play against will actually come and play football against us (Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, Man City, Man Utd, Everton), that leaves 13 teams who we need a different game plan for.

That different game plan is something we simply don't have and it's glaring obvious what you have to do to take points off us.

Coutinho has come back in and has little to no effect on any of the games since his injury - he's not fit.

Emre Can, I don't even know where to start, what does he actually offer? Yes he was a bit better against Chelsea, but what does the lad actually do? 5-10 yard passes and then give it away every other? He's lazy defensively, toothless offensively and slow in possession.

We've reverted back to the hard to watch Liverpool, it doesn't help when the teams you're playing don't want to play but its a results business.

[McDermotX]

Be interesting to watch Klopp's post-match

[Lecter]

Somebody has to get sacked to appease the gods.

Not the manager obviously. A steward perhaps ?

Fredo

[EwarWoo]

We're in a slump. Painful to watch right now but it will pass.

We're still in the top 4 which was our target, it's not a massive drama as long as we do get over it.

[Lecter]

We've got to try and salvage what we can from this shambles now. It's a crisis and not sure how we come out of this.

By keeping possession and being "patient" clearly

[S-RED]

Be interesting to watch Klopp's post-match

More interesting than the game,

[Fredo]

By keeping possession and being "patient" clearly

Yes, which we didn't have today. What do you preconise?

We also need to pass the ball better and with more pace but patience is the key, especially when we cannot play with the same intensity that we had earlier this season.

[McDermotX]

Fredo

[S-RED]

We're in a slump. Painful to watch right now but it will pass.

We're still in the top 4 which was our target, it's not a massive drama as long as we do get over it.

But today was the day to start that run-through to end of the season, but yet again we were shocking. The players have gone mentally

[baronvonskidmark]

Too many slow or out of form players in the starting eleven.

Wijnaldum offers more speed of thought than Can, who slows us down so much. I don't see what he is offering - he's not particularly great defensively, has no pace, isn't creative and doesn't score goals. Yes, he came off today but the whole shape of the team was changed. That change alone would help a lot.

Firmino is massively out of form but gets picked which imo is doing him or us no favours. For all his faults, I'd give Sturridge a go - Firmino is praised for his defensive chasing, but he's not scoring and we're conceding so a change is needed there imo. Sturridge can't make things any worse and might actually get a few shots on target. Probably reintegrate Karius too.

We've not got a big enough squad, but a couple of tweaks could help substantially.

[cream]

We'll be alright, it's fine.

[Irishnev]

I know that much of the team isn't Klopp's but the mind boggles that we have half the back four who aren't defenders and we still have Mignolet in goal. Particularly the last bit.

Mignolet, Lucas and Milner in the back 4 - ridiculous we are in this situation. The Sakho debacle is coming home to roost - banish him fair enough as long as you can replace him.

[vlahka]

Klopp didnt even go on the field and hug them. Thats how bad they are. They dont deserve klopp hugs. They'll be reeling from that you mark my words.

[Lecter]

Yes, which we didn't have today. What do you preconise?

We also need to pass the ball better and with more pace but patience is the key, especially when we cannot play with the same intensity that we had earlier this season.

We can't afford to be patient because we gift goals every match

I would also argue that our best results have come when we have gone full throttle from the get go (which kind of shows no patience)

This slow start and patient play is part of the problem for me as it stunts the tempo and our all round play

[Chris]

That was disgraceful, even I cant defend that ****. Awful.