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    Originally posted by Charly View Post
    I think Henry was a slightly better player. Stats dont always come into it. I think Suarez was a better player too. Not to take anything away. Its pretty small margins.

    So many other variables influence how we see players. I will always argue that I think peak Fowler was better than Rush, but then I saw Fowler more, and Rushies record cannot be ignored, despite having played in a much better team.

    Point being Salah will go fown as a Liverpool legend, probably second to Rush. He doesnt get the recognition he deserves outside of our fanbase imho.
    Depends how you define ‘better’, Henry was certainly easy on the eye but I’m not sure he was better in terms of overall effectiveness.

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      Originally posted by rudedog View Post
      Depends how you define ‘better’, Henry was certainly easy on the eye but I’m not sure he was better in terms of overall effectiveness.


      Think Liverpool fans will say Salah for the most part and Arsenal fans will say Henry.

      Both were/are brilliant players and two of the best attackers to ever to have played in England.
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        Originally posted by Doc_Piptorious View Post
        Think Liverpool fans will say Salah for the most part and Arsenal fans will say Henry.

        Both were/are brilliant players and two of the best attackers to ever to have played in England.
        Henry was a better overall player in my opinion.

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          Coman described Salah as 'efficient' and in his top 3 wingers in the world.
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            Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
            Henry was a better overall player in my opinion.

            Richie Partridge was better than either of them imo.
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              Worryingly Neymar getting his contract cancelled could mean a £2m+ per week offer to Salah.
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                I reckon we may have tried to sell Mo when all the £200m rumours were at a high - but his ambition was to remain and win trophies. The impasse has existed since that point.

                I believe he wants to stay but that his contract demands now fall outwith the parameters FSG typically work with. Then any fall off on form has not happened, in fact the opposite has occurred, leaving the club with a bit of a dilemma.
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                  Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                  I reckon we may have tried to sell Mo when all the £200m rumours were at a high - but his ambition was to remain and win trophies. The impasse has existed since that point.

                  I believe he wants to stay but that his contract demands now fall outwith the parameters FSG typically work with. Then any fall off on form has not happened, in fact the opposite has occurred, leaving the club with a bit of a dilemma.

                  The Salah contract issues are meant to be the same as with those of VVD. The money side offered is not meant to be a problem.

                  The length of contract offered is supposedly the sticking point with Salah wanting, allegedly, two years more than what was offered and VVD wanting, again allegedly, a year more than what was offered.
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                    That does feel resolvable. A bit of brinkmanship and then some resolution.

                    2 monumental players in my time following the club it would be amazing to see them win a few more trophies and then leave as the legends they are.
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                      Which to mind my mind makes no sense.

                      Sell them to Saudi with 12 months remaining and you've paid the 2 years salary it's just cost you.

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                        Originally posted by Doc_Piptorious View Post
                        The Salah contract issues are meant to be the same as with those of VVD. The money side offered is not meant to be a problem.

                        The length of contract offered is supposedly the sticking point with Salah wanting, allegedly, two years more than what was offered and VVD wanting, again allegedly, a year more than what was offered.
                        Where are these rumours about contract length coming from?

                        If I were them, a shorter contract would probably do me fine, then I get the big Arab pay day in a couple of years.
                        Oh I don't know.

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                          Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                          That does feel resolvable. A bit of brinkmanship and then some resolution.

                          2 monumental players in my time following the club it would be amazing to see them win a few more trophies and then leave as the legends they are.


                          To me it appears doable with a bit of compromise, namely doing +1 type contracts though in Salah's case the two year gap is a bit more of a challenge I suspect.


                          Can see the club's pov with the Salah contrat as giving Salah a straight three or four year contract at his age means the final year of two of it could be when his form falls off a cliff and they then have another 12 to 24 months of him eating up a massive wage.


                          For me a 2+1 (two years with the option of a further year extension after the first 12 months) type contract for both makes sense, but apparantly something like that was on the table for Salah and he wants a full length contract instead.


                          VVD's situation is rumoured to be similar but with a bit more give potentially.


                          The TAA one is meant to be just huge amounts of money being asked for and the alleged feeling being that he wants out but is just stringing the contract talks along to avoid having to say he is leaving.



                          Was also a really out there rumour doing the rounds of that Klopp might be returning to club management for the 2025/26 season and that he has been approached to replace Ancelotti with Alonso only being the back up choice.
                          Last edited by Doc_Piptorious; 29-01-25, 12:16 PM.
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                            Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                            Where are these rumours about contract length coming from?

                            If I were them, a shorter contract would probably do me fine, then I get the big Arab pay day in a couple of years.


                            Rumourland, where all spurious stuff goes to die.
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                              I can't help but think, that like when we sell promising youngsters we seek a sell on fee, when players are signing their "around 30 years old" contract that we sign them up with an option of an extra year or so with given salary & performance conditions.

                              I don't know whether or not the rumour are true, but they are clearly designed to influence fan thoughts - that Salah is asking for 3 more years on £400k - that is clearly not an option for the club. Had his last contract involved an option for the club to extend on his current salary - that would have been ideal.
                              Really?

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                                I can't help but think that a 2+1 should be a relatively standard situation for players in their 30's. In the era of sports science and all these stats having a 2 years at £400k and saying the optional year is subject to certain targets (mins played, goal involvements or what ever), you meet those targets and you get the 3rd year at the agreed wages. If you aren't making those targets then the other year either isn't invoked or you have a pre-negotiated lower rate as a fall back option, seems a fair approach for everyone.
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