Mo Salah

[Exiled_red]

Yeah I think his sustained return over almost eight seasons with us is incredible and really puts him in a very small group of players that managed to maintain a world class return over so many seasons in a row.

As you said we have had guys that had great seasons or who are known as club greats that had longer careers with us than Mo will have, but am struggling to think of a lot of players who have had eight seasons in a row with us during which the level of what they are meant to do in their role did not drop below world class.

Think one of Salah's biggest competitors for that sort of sustained
levels whilst at Liverpool would be Virgil van Dijk.


Barnes was brilliant and is probably the most talented attacking player I have seen be it live or on tv, but his peak years did not last as long as Salah's.


Gerrard had a very long career with us but nobody will convince me that he had eight years in a row where he stayed best in the world in terms of his play/return from the role he was in. He might have eight seasons that way over his career but not in a row.


Think we have been very lucky the past decade in that we have gotten to see a number of players that will go down as club all time greats with some of them maybe the best ever at the Club in their positions.

Salah, VVD and Alisson for me as best ever for us in their positions.

Barnes was here for 10 years but probably only had about 4 years as a winger, injury in ~91-92 did for him and then he moved inside to a centre mid role after that injury IIRC. If you include his time at Watford he probably has 8 or 9 years performing at the top level as a winger

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Yeah I think his sustained return over almost eight seasons with us is incredible and really puts him in a very small group of players that managed to maintain a world class return over so many seasons in a row.

As you said we have had guys that had great seasons or who are known as club greats that had longer careers with us than Mo will have, but am struggling to think of a lot of players who have had eight seasons in a row with us during which the level of what they are meant to do in their role did not drop below world class.

Think one of Salah's biggest competitors for that sort of sustained
levels whilst at Liverpool would be Virgil van Dijk.


Barnes was brilliant and is probably the most talented attacking player I have seen be it live or on tv, but his peak years did not last as long as Salah's.


Gerrard had a very long career with us but nobody will convince me that he had eight years in a row where he stayed best in the world in terms of his play/return from the role he was in. He might have eight seasons that way over his career but not in a row.


Think we have been very lucky the past decade in that we have gotten to see a number of players that will go down as club all time greats with some of them maybe the best ever at the Club in their positions.

Salah, VVD and Alisson for me as best ever for us in their positions.

Not just for us in the Premier league. 3 genuine legends.

[Lee]

Salah’s GPG rate is incredible. 1.61 over his 384 games with us. He is now 3 goals away from being our third all time leading goal scorer, playing off the right wing.

He has never once talked about playing for another club.

I also hope we get to see another couple off seasons of Salah, because players like him that stay at the same club for so long are generational.

It’s going to be a long, long time before we see that level of output here by anyone else and it’s absolutely criminal that he can walk for free in a few months’ time.

I think he wants another three years to give him a shout at Rush’s record. It’ll be tight but you’d never bet against Mo.

[Doc_Piptorious]

It’s going to be a long, long time before we see that level of output here by anyone else and it’s absolutely criminal that he can walk for free in a few months’ time.

I think he wants another three years to give him a shout at Rush’s record. It’ll be tight but you’d never bet against Mo.

To be fair for the majority of top clubs in Europe it will be a long time before any of them have a player with that output over such a sustained period.


Mo is one of those guys that sits at the top table and his output dwarfs that of almost everyone else save for a handful.

Best to enjoy such players when they are there rather than to wonder if we can get another single player to replicate that return.


As for him being able to walk for free, well for me there is always two sides to such scenarios and as much responsibility needs to be levied on the player as the club when it comes to blame.



Three years would be a big gamble by the club as Mo's form could fall off a cliff a year into that deal and then we would all be screaming why can't the club just buy a new attacker when we had a massive contract costing millions for a further two years.

The rumours about Mo's contract offer is that he has been offered two years on his current wage but with a bigger bonus structure and that Mo wants a three or four year contract.

For me the smart option would be to offer a 2+1 type contract so he has two years guaranteed and the option of a third after a set period of time if both parties want to activate it.


Would be offering similar to VVD (2+1) though I think VVD is a safer bet to be going into the start of a third season from now and still being one of the best around in his role.


But the big difference for me with our three ticking down contracts is that two of them still look top class on the pitch and the third one, TAA, does not look like he is at the same level (on a consistent basis that is) as the other two. He used to but that was some seasons ago.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Barnes was here for 10 years but probably only had about 4 years as a winger, injury in ~91-92 did for him and then he moved inside to a centre mid role after that injury IIRC. If you include his time at Watford he probably has 8 or 9 years performing at the top level as a winger

He was outstanding at Watford alright but was only looking at the time players were at LFC.

If including time away from LFC then guys like Alonso would enter the discussion as he was quality before and after his time with us.


Souness is another guy that would come pretty close to being top notch for every season he was with us but I did not include him (despite him being the very best midfielder I have ever seen play for us) as did not have a full seven or eight seasons with us. Probably unfair to leave him out though as he was with us for 6.5 seasons and was a rock for that duration.



Some six months of so by Bob Paisley to have signed the Jock triumvirate of Souness, Hansen and Dalglish. Getting just one of them could have been described as catching lightning in a bottle, but signing three players of that quality so close together is nuts.

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To be fair for the majority of top clubs in Europe it will be a long time before any of them have a player with that output over such a sustained period.


Mo is one of those guys that sits at the top table and his output dwarfs that of almost everyone else save for a handful.

Best to enjoy such players when they are there rather than to wonder if we can get another single player to replicate that return.


As for him being able to walk for free, well for me there is always two sides to such scenarios and as much responsibility needs to be levied on the player as the club when it comes to blame.



Three years would be a big gamble by the club as Mo's form could fall off a cliff a year into that deal and then we would all be screaming why can't the club just buy a new attacker when we had a massive contract costing millions for a further two years.

The rumours about Mo's contract offer is that he has been offered two years on his current wage but with a bigger bonus structure and that Mo wants a three or four year contract.

For me the smart option would be to offer a 2+1 type contract so he has two years guaranteed and the option of a third after a set period of time if both parties want to activate it.


Would be offering similar to VVD (2+1) though I think VVD is a safer bet to be going into the start of a third season from now and still being one of the best around in his role.


But the big difference for me with our three ticking down contracts is that two of them still look top class on the pitch and the third one, TAA, does not look like he is at the same level (on a consistent basis that is) as the other two. He used to but that was some seasons ago.

Not sure it is to mucha risk from the clubs perspective, If his form drops off he is flogged to Saudi where he will always be welcome.

[Buzzo]

He has only once scored more than the 23 league goals that he has now, the first season when he got 32.

[SB]

He has only once scored more than the 23 league goals that he has now, the first season when he got 32.

First & last hey. Been slack in between though

[Buzzo]

The records just keep coming for Salah.
The Egypt international now has 39 goal involvements in the Premier League this season, netting 24 times and assisting 15, having opened the scoring and set up Alexander-Arnold's leveller at Villa Park.

In the league, 11 teams have scored 38 goals or less - including Villa - leaving Salah in a class of his own this season.

He has also become just the fifth player with more than 15 goals and 15 assists in a Premier League season, along with Eric Cantona, Matt le Tissier, Thierry Henry and Eden Hazard.

The forward is the first player Premier League history to score and assist in 10 different games in one season. Salah is also the first player to do so in one of Europe's big-five leagues since Lionel Messi in 2014-15 for Barcelona (11).

[DerKrampus]

He's 8 goals away from his record opening season tally of 32, and 12 from equalling the PL record.

[danperkins]

His production levels this season are insane. You get the feeling he will score or assist in every game & when he doesn't.. it's kinda weird. That's the standard he has set. Also, he didn't play great last night at all but he still did the business.

[RichC]

Worry is when he doesn’t produce for us who’s going to step up. Hoping Gapko is back soon.

[Charly]

His underlying stars if you take away his goals/ shooting and assists are average to woeful.

He is certainly producing at the very highest level in the job his is paid to do though. But if it dried up we could be stuck with a player on 400k who cant run, intercept, pass or tackle (although the comparison is attacking midfielders and wingers, so maybe a bit harsh- taken from fbref)

We almost have to build the team around Mo to get the best out of him if we dish out a new contract. I think we have all noticed he doesnt contribute in the same way... and yet he is breaking records this season.

I just worry considering his decline if he can keep that up, and Im sure that is on the minds of the contract negotiators. Im not even sure myself. It could come down to who is availble as a replacement. I think if we got the same performance as last season and were quoted 400k a week we would all have waved goodbye.

I hope we can find a compromise, maybe link his contract to goals and assists, but I doubt his agent would go for that.

[Buzzo]

His underlying stars if you take away his goals/ shooting and assists are average to woeful.

He is certainly producing at the very highest level in the job his is paid to do though. But if it dried up we could be stuck with a player on 400k who cant run, intercept, pass or tackle (although the comparison is attacking midfielders and wingers, so maybe a bit harsh- taken from fbref)

We almost have to build the team around Mo to get the best out of him if we dish out a new contract. I think we have all noticed he doesnt contribute in the same way... and yet he is breaking records this season.

I just worry considering his decline if he can keep that up, and Im sure that is on the minds of the contract negotiators. Im not even sure myself. It could come down to who is availble as a replacement. I think if we got the same performance as last season and were quoted 400k a week we would all have waved goodbye.

I hope we can find a compromise, maybe link his contract to goals and assists, but I doubt his agent would go for that.

What did the Romans ever do for us’?

His underlying stats 25% conversion are solid https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...ue/top-scorers

[Paul12]

His production levels this season are insane. You get the feeling he will score or assist in every game & when he doesn't.. it's kinda weird. That's the standard he has set. Also, he didn't play great last night at all but he still did the business.

Your final sentence is important though...he scores and he assists at a fantastic rate, but he does not terrorise throughout as he used to.