how we should approach the bus parkers

[PTP]

Play two up top - whether we add solanke or ings to basically get in the box as much as possible - Firmino will come looking for the ball a times, so an additional out and out striker will still mean we have that extra threat in the box.

Get width - Probably consider TAA at right back instead of Gomez

Maybe a change of tactic/set up - and be prepared to change something in game - For example if teams have completed parked the bus - do we really need all those defensive players - why not say sacrifice a CB for Lallana, because Can drops so deep anyway to get the ball off them that he practically plays CB anyway - So let him do so and have someone else further forward

When Can and the other pushes forward, you'd still have VVD and eg Gomez back - The teams that play so deep/park the bus, those two should be ok and we have robinson/oxlade with pace to get back should a sudden counter occur

[Lecter]

Play two up top - whether we add solanke or ings to basically get in the box as much as possible - Firmino will come looking for the ball a times, so an additional out and out striker will still mean we have that extra threat in the box.

Get width - Probably consider TAA at right back instead of Gomez

Maybe a change of tactic/set up - and be prepared to change something in game - For example if teams have completed parked the bus - do we really need all those defensive players - why not say sacrifice a CB for Lallana, because Can drops so deep anyway to get the ball off them that he practically plays CB anyway - So let him do so and have someone else further forward

When Can and the other pushes forward, you'd still have VVD and eg Gomez back - The teams that play so deep/park the bus, those two should be ok and we have robinson/oxlade with pace to get back should a sudden counter occur

Solanke is utter turd

Might as well play with 10 men

[red g]

City face the same as us and they're always getting down the sides, turning teams around and working balls across the box - Sterling scores so many of his goals arriving at the far post.

Pep realised this last season and spent a squillion pounds on 3 or 4 full backs last summer.

[red g]

Solanke is utter turd

Might as well play with 10 men

you think he is that bad?

[Kenneth]

I'd rather him than Ings, but neither should be in a match day squad with intentions of using them.

[PTP]

The only thing I would say is I feel against the lesser teams our players dwell on the ball too long

Its almost like, well its only Swansea so I will just dribble round this guy or take a couple of touches more

The approach and tempo has to be the same against the lesser sides as it is against the top

When we have started quickly we have generally even found a way through bus parkers

When we start slow, our game becomes mired in too many touches, too much approach play and that could also be a reason why we snatch at chances

Something I've banged on about for ages - when we start slow that's it! game is set, we seem to have no ability to change mid game - it's either sharp/press/quick/slick from the first minute and we stay like that or we start slowly/sloppy and cant get going

it's like me getting up early, getting a decent brekkie/coffee in me and getting into work fresh as a daisy - I smash in the day or - waking up late/having a lie, starting slowly and feeling groggy and I get **** all done.

I can't believe that's Klopp - he clearly is up for everything - so it could well be the mindset of the players we have......everyone bangs on about our captain or leaders in the side.....we don't have any - who in that squad demands the quality doesn't slip or who do you think our players look up too or scared and not meeting there standards!c

There isn't really anyone - we seem to have a fantastic atmosphere and likeable squad - but a couple of cunts who also happen to be great at football would do us the world of good.

[PTP]

Solanke is utter turd

Might as well play with 10 men

thing is tho - right now who else is there?

I do think we need to go and buy a few players in area - but i'm purely looking at what we have right now available to use.

The squad we have and the players available last night should not have been beaten in that manner.

It's football - anything can happen and teams will be unlucky and get shock results here and there....but last night wasn't a 'shock' result or performance - it was fairly standard Liverpool - we either blow teams away or we play like that.

And even without Coutinho we should be performing better than that. And we had plenty of performances like that with him available

I don't know what the answer is - but there must be someway of trying something different in these circumstances - maybe woodburn, or ings or someone

[PTP]

I'd rather him than Ings, but neither should be in a match day squad with intentions of using them.

again I agree - but we don't have much choice unless we sign some extra players

[Rich]

Thing with Citeh is that they push both fullbacks right up, but they have a couple of players capable of beating a man in the middle to help create space (Silva and KdB) and they've got Fernandinho sitting capable of nullifying most breaks if they lose it.

Plus KdB's passing is right up there with Alonso in terms of picking a hole in a tight defence.

[Norbs]

Aye, you could tell after 30 seconds we were gonna drop points. That intensity thing is huge. So ****ing frustrating.

The first post in the match thread after kick off was 'bit like a training match so far', and that was 10 mins in to the game. We just didn't look at all up for it from the start. Not sure how Klopp can even address that.

[Roboklopp]

The first post in the match thread after kick off was 'bit like a training match so far '. We just didn't look at all up for it from the start. Not sure how Klopp can even address that.

Snap the cunts.



(Snap was an “autocorrect” () for slap, but seems a reasonable suggestion too).

[greenturnip]

When the ball went out to our full-backs last night it just came back inside a few seconds later. So there was no real width. There was no attempt to 'get round the back' (John Barnes™). Was that due to instructions? Or a lack of confidence that they have the pace? Same applies to Mane/Salah. We were so sluggish and had few ideas - apart from VVD who was looking for probing passes.

[Havors]

Perhaps it was just an off day all round

I am struggling to think of one player who was anything above average yesterday

I think people sometimes read too much into formations etc..

We were poor but we still created 2 or 3 clear cut chances

Well we tend to have a lot of these "off" days... especially against teams that park the bus... there is a pattern... our tactics dont change or adapt to these situations.

[Norbs]

When the ball went out to our full-backs last night it just came back inside a few seconds later. So there was no real width. There was no attempt to 'get round the back' (John Barnes™). Was that due to instructions? Or a lack of confidence that they have the pace? Same applies to Mane/Salah. We were so sluggish and had few ideas - apart from VVD who was looking for probing passes.

Do you think VVD and Matip venturing forward caused it to be even more condensed in their half?

[greenturnip]

Yeah - it was interesting to see VVD and Matip with the ball in their half looking for a pass forward. I guess that's an old tactic - "let their centre-halves have it rather than their creative midfielders". Thing is, if that chip to Salah from VVD had gone in, we would be having a completely different conversation...we might have won 4-0 as they went for the equaliser. But I thught VVD was more creative in his passes than Can, who dropped deep to get the ball off them.