how we should approach the bus parkers

[Tee]

I think we just need to speed up the pace of our game...too slow and way too many back passes...

[Lecter]

you think he is that bad?

Yep

[frank the tank]

If Klopp can't figure out how to break these teams down, then i don't think we will. But...

Its all about shear numbers of people- so when they do it, we need to really push the full back up to become wingers, and then stick one CM infront of the CB as a play maker, pinging balls forward and starting attacks- like Gerrard did in his later years

We also need to take our chances and not miss sitters... and make more of set pieces

In reality, we should have scored 3 or 4 last night. Mane, Salah, Ings and Firmino all should have scored a goal. And Lallana too when Firminos didn't go in.

Guy in work today was saying that we needed a big man to lump the ball into. What the ****??? That would only be true if we didn't have touches in their box.

It was just one of those games where we didn't click. I suspect that Huddersfield will feel the backlash in the next league match.

[Lecter]

Well we tend to have a lot of these "off" days... especially against teams that park the bus... there is a pattern... our tactics dont change or adapt to these situations.

I don't think we have had as many off days this season. Last utter ****e performance was probably Spurs

Do City's tactics change against such sides?

Despite playing poorly and not having the "correct" tactics we could easily have scored 2 or 3 last night

[Kenneth]

The West Brom and Newcastle draws were pretty dire.

[Snigger]

As does Salah, we suffer from a lack of a number nine, they have two in Aguero (I think he's more of a 9 than a 10) and Jesus. Their creativity in midfield is also significantly better than ours.

Always gong to do better if the son of god is in your team.

[Exiled_red]

I think that this is the type of game where you just need an out and out striker who is a natural finisher. We don't have one at the moment. I know the Firmino / all round player has been debated to death, and this isn't an attack on Firmino but I feel that someone who will stay in the box and if a chance comes their way they will more likely than not stick it in the back of the net. Firmino is drifting deep, pulling out wide etc. I think just having someone in there all the time offers the constant threat.

[baitman]

I think that this is the type of game where you just need an out and out striker who is a natural finisher. We don't have one at the moment. I know the Firmino / all round player has been debated to death, and this isn't an attack on Firmino but I feel that someone who will stay in the box and if a chance comes their way they will more likely than not stick it in the back of the net. Firmino is drifting deep, pulling out wide etc. I think just having someone in there all the time offers the constant threat.

bobby like to link up with others and use his quick feet to dribble but he isnt going to do that in a packed defence.
if we had ings and/or solanke as the main guy up front with firmino deeper, as a 10 at the tip of the diamond, then we would still have him in a useful position to help unlock the side door to the bus.

[Liverpool]

Proper quality width from full back
a striker on the shoulder constantly looking to get on the end of a pass
Midfielder who wants to run forward, Keita?!
An Ozil/Silva type setting the tempo, prodding away until an opening.

Problem is most of answers to the bus parking dont fit into our normal plan A. Not going to get a quality player like Ozil to only drop them in the big games when we play our pressing game. If we could rotate Ozil/Gini that would be nice.

Going 3 at the back seems alright shape wise, but then seems daft to waste another shirt on a defender when they are sitting back and offering nothing

[Myo]

For games like this... we need a physical presence, a second option up front to speak..knockdowns and runners winning the second ball no?

[Lecter]

For games like this... we need a physical presence, a second option up front to speak..knockdowns and runners winning the second ball no?

Andy Carroll

[ronanm]

No overtaking on left turns

[gratziani]

Feel like we need a better midfield in these games as our front three are brilliant already

If they misfire we require a Gerrard or Alonso type player to rifle in a 30 yarder

[Charly]

I dunno.

Talking of three midfielders and the best modern mifield that I have seen... had one defensive holding player, a midfield who directed play, and then an attacking midfielder who could dribble and pick a pass (as well as score).

That was Mascherano, Alonso and Gerrard... last time we had 3 world class midfielders in the same team

Sadly we are a country mile away from any of those players in terms of quality.

I know we play a bit differently, but none of our midfielders have those qualities approaching those levels.

Keita is coming in but I bet most of us cant even decide where he should play, only that he should on the basis he is miles better than the other midfielders. I am hoping we have a plan on how to fill the other two slots longterm... obviously by then Salah and Firmino will be off and we wont be able to score... no hurry though. Take your time. It not like our rivals are strengthening obvious deficiencies.

[baitman]

... That was Mascherano, Alonso and Gerrard... last time we had 3 world class midfielders in the same team

Sadly we are a country mile away from any of those players in terms of quality.

I know we play a bit differently, but none of our midfielders have those qualities approaching those levels.

the masher, alonso, gerrard midfield was awesome and would be great against any top class team that game to play, but i think the level the lesser team play at is so much better these days.

they are better drilled and more compact in their defence, and much harder to break down. the expansive free flowing football that we excel at just isnt a winning formula against these teams.