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  • Exiled_red
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    Originally posted by Tatterdemalion View Post
    Depends on whether Slot is prepared to give him more game time (doubt it) and whether he wants to fight for his place (with more minutes, probably). Still, I think the net is he will go and for his own benefit I think he should.

    It's quite hard to fight for a place if you never get the opportunity in live action. The only issue I have with Slot. We'll end up with a small squad of starters and a broad set of nevers.
    I think the aim is to have something close to having two players for each position with little drop off should they need to be swapped out or rested etc. Alisson and Mamardashvili, Frimpong and Bradley, Kerkez and Robertson, Gakpo and Diaz, Midfield is a bit more complex but similar picture with Gravenberch, MacAllister, Szoboszlai Wirtz and Jones being 3 from 5. The other positions being worked on currently (CB and CF) that gets us a squad of probably about 18-20 with the rest being made up of youngsters and the odd squad player who is useful to have around but doesn't start much (e.g Endo).

    As I see it the only options for Elliott if he stays are to become the rotation for Salah, become the 6th CM or an Endo or Cup team player. Not really sure any of those are great options, the first would be the best but I'm not sure he has the skills etc for that, and still relies on Slot giving him.games or resting Salah

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  • Tatterdemalion
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    Originally posted by BG1973 View Post
    He won't be good for morale when he's still not getting game time which he won't with our options in midfield.

    I think he has to go.
    Depends on whether Slot is prepared to give him more game time (doubt it) and whether he wants to fight for his place (with more minutes, probably). Still, I think the net is he will go and for his own benefit I think he should.

    It's quite hard to fight for a place if you never get the opportunity in live action. The only issue I have with Slot. We'll end up with a small squad of starters and a broad set of nevers.

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  • BG1973
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    He won't be good for morale when he's still not getting game time which he won't with our options in midfield.

    I think he has to go.

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  • Norbs
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    Yeah, I'd keep him. He looks a sound lad, good for morale and he's intelligent with it

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  • Charly
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    Originally posted by red g View Post
    That is an excellent point. Puts me right back in my box.



    18 games played this season.....1 goal.



    ****.



    minutes played 360 minutes.



    1 goal every 4 games.....not so bad
    If you include CL games of 171 minutes. That is less than 6 games.

    6 games 4 goals 2 assists.

    Thats Salah levels of return. Honestly not sure how he can be expected to improve on that.



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  • Exiled_red
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    [ame="https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1939964845886964063"]https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1939964845886964063[/ame]

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  • red g
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    Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
    How many minutes has he played though? I suspect most of his PL appearances are from the bench
    That is an excellent point. Puts me right back in my box.

    18 games played this season.....1 goal.

    ****.

    minutes played 360 minutes.

    1 goal every 4 games.....not so bad

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  • Exiled_red
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    Originally posted by red g View Post
    5 goals in 92 premier league games......thats more Carlton Palmer than Cole
    How many minutes has he played though? I suspect most of his PL appearances are from the bench

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  • RedReet
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    Originally posted by red g View Post
    I do agree. Couldnt resist though. I think he tends to shank a lot of his shots oif he can cut that out his numbers could grrow quickly
    No, you had to point it out.

    I genuinely am surprised by those stats though.

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  • red g
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    I do agree. Couldnt resist though. I think he tends to shank a lot of his shots oif he can cut that out his numbers could grrow quickly

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  • RedReet
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    Originally posted by red g View Post
    5 goals in 92 premier league games......thats more Carlton Palmer than Cole


    I didn't realise the amount of appearances he's racked up. I must be letting the fact he's got me a couple of FGS bets up cloud my judgement.


    And overall 32 goals and assists in all comps isn't too bad, plus it's more PL goals than Palmer had before joining Chelsea.

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  • red g
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    Originally posted by RedReet View Post
    One thing he does have in abundance is end product and that's them most valuable thing in football. He's maybe not as good as Cole Palmer, but I could see him having a similar impact at his next club.

    He'll be one of the first names in my FF team.
    5 goals in 92 premier league games......thats more Carlton Palmer than Cole

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  • vlahka
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    60mill!

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  • RedReet
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    One thing he does have in abundance is end product and that's them most valuable thing in football. He's maybe not as good as Cole Palmer, but I could see him having a similar impact at his next club.

    He'll be one of the first names in my FF team.

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  • Catrin
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    The last world class players I can think of who appeared to be relatively slow were Xabi Alonso and Andrea Pirlo. Both were taller though, not that I can recall either being good at heading. If Harvey can develop his passing and his positional play he could become the next Ever Banega or possibly Juan Mata.

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