Liverpool vs Man City - Premier League (19/20 - Game 12)

[Ams12]

link?

It defo hit his arm first then onto his thigh. But it was deflected on to his arm from Silvas arm first so play on...great call ref!


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[Kenneth]

link?

I posted it in this thread. It's just a dodgy angle, it clearly did hit his arm before hitting his hip.

[Norbs]

And away to Sheffield Utd which will be a tough place to go

We've played the top ten bar Wolves I think, 8 fixtures against teams otherwise doing not too bad

[Norbs]

And not a single new signing in our starting 11 or among the subs who came on. We're completely and utterly settled in

Not going to look up the stats but, Fabinho and Alisson aside, I bet all our first 11 have played 100+ times for the club

[Buzzo]

Liverpool’s symmetrical full-backs have turned them into world leaders

For all the protests from Pep Guardiola and Manchester City, this match was not settled by marginal refereeing decision

Barney Ronay at Anfield
Published: 20:39 Sunday, 10 November 2019

It is the hardest thing in any sport to make astonishingly difficult things look astonishingly simple. With 13 minutes gone at Anfield Liverpool produced a piece of play that seemed to stop the day, a perfect little miniature of bold, simple lines, carved across the pitch, like a Miró line drawing.

It took six seconds, four touches and three diagonal movements for the ball to travel from right-back to left wing, back to inside-right, then back again into the left-hand corner of the net. The moment of ignition came from Trent Alexander‑Arnold, who looked up and played one of those lofted cross‑kicks, full-back to full-back.

Andrew Robertson took one touch and hared into the space ahead of him. His pass back across into Mo Salah’s path had a gorgeous symmetry, 45 degrees back the other way and perfectly weighted, making Fernandinho hop and lunge, erased from the game by the precision of the delivery. Salah had time to measure his stride before nodding the ball back across Bravo in perfect symmetry with the angle of that first pass.

There will of course be an urge to talk about VAR, because there must always be an urge to talk about VAR. Perhaps Alexander-Arnold might have been called for a handball in the build-up to Liverpool’s first goal. He wasn’t. It wasn’t. Perhaps Salah’s finger might have been offside for the second (it wasn’t, or it wasn’t enough).

How far do we really want to go with this? Liverpool did not win this game because of marginal refereeing decisions. This is simply wishful thinking, subjectivity bending the lines and frying the brain. For all his misdirection, his insistence during the game that Manchester City had been wronged, robbed, betrayed by the gods of the video screen, Pep Guardiola will know this better than anyone else.

Perhaps he might also dwell on the way Liverpool’s decisive strengths here, the key actors in that Miró ball goal, mirrored his own team’s weaknesses. What kind of Pep-coached champion team comes to Anfield to play a game like this with a raggedy back-up goalkeeper, a makeshift centre-half, the remains of John Stones and a tyro left-back?

Guardiola’s arrogance is one of the things that makes him successful. Guardiola’s arrogance is also one of the things that makes him vulnerable. Why would you play Angeliño here, a left-back who has never been to Anfield, who has four Premier League games behind him but found himself up against the strongest right-hand side in European club football?

City have signed one centre-half in the past two and half years. In that time one has retired. Another has gone. Nicolás Otamendi has fallen through the floor. Buying from a position of strength is always an optimistic tactic. Buying in a position of weakness when you aim to be the best club side in the world, well, that’s just common sense.

And yet Guardiola hasn’t bought, he has shown a kind of disdain for a position, a role that simply doesn’t fire his imagination. It is a failure of management, albeit one that comes from the same place as his strengths, the same will that allows him to build a team who play with such beauty when they have the ball.

Jürgen Klopp’s achievement is to produce a team capable of exposing this weakness here, and doing so with a performance that owed much to another bravura display from the attacking parts of its own defence. Guardiola has been credited with revolutionising the role of the full‑back. You wouldn’t have guessed it here as his team were cleaved apart for that crucial second goal by Liverpool’s own variations on the full-back as left- and right‑sided playmakers.

Alexander-Arnold was, once again, sublime here. His range of passing from right-back is a thing of beauty. His calmness, his physical strength, his ability to cover the ground allow him to dominate his flank. He sees the whole picture from inside his own half.

One to pass and one to run: Robertson was an urgent, thrusting menace on the other flank, a £7m player coached into phenomenon at this level. Robertson and Alexander‑Arnold played 21 long passes in this game, compared to seven by Kyle Walker and Angeliño. Virgil van Dijk was, as ever, a wall. But either side of him it was Liverpool’s full-backs who dictated the rhythms of this victory.

It should come as no great surprise. This is a team playing through a kind of golden haze right now. For Liverpool everything is illuminated. Fabinho and Georginio Wijnaldum made 40 passes between them in the first half. Only one went astray. For a while as City pushed back at them Sadio Mané came and played in front of Robertson as an auxiliary block on the left. He robbed Bernardo Silva and romped away with the ball. He turned away from Kyle Walker in a tiny sliver of space and dinked a lovely pass up the line to Wijnaldum. His goal in the second half, Liverpool’s third, was just a garland to a performance of real authority.

There will of course be a temptation to call it now, to say Liverpool won the title here, that this is an impregnable lead. It should be resisted simply out of respect to the remaining six months of the season. But Liverpool did establish one thing beyond any doubt here. Right now, in this snapshot in time, this is the best football team in the world.

Best of all, and led from the flanks by those brilliant full-backs, they continue to make it look breathtakingly simple.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/nov/10/liverpool-symmetrical-full-backs-world-leaders?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[Chris]

Trent seemed to dribble a bit more today, if he’s adding more of that to his game too then ****ing hell. He gets more like Gerrard by the game.

Also thought Alisson was great, didn’t have many saves to make but dealing with crosses, distribution etc was godly.

[brightred]

It was a bit tricky tbf, nearly sloped off at HT for a double Canadian Club but opted for more cucumber infused water and a waffle

There is a reason why you are my hero Norbs!

[baitman]

link?

I cant find the original one, might have been on facey, but found this one but its clear it first hits the arm and then bounces onto the side of his chest.
So yeh, handball.

[ame="https://youtu.be/-jV7soSjO0U"]Trent Alexander-Arnold Handball vs Man City | 10th Nov 2019 - YouTube[/ame]

[Norbs]

Watching on NBC was as bad as Tyler. Every time Aguerno got the ball it was Ageuroooooooooooo, oh. I suppose they didn't have enough time to think about elongating our players names as our attacks were so much swifter and clinical

[Fosterbloke]

Our second goal is right up there with this one -

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfWlciSofiM"]Terry McDermott header vs Tottenham (Liverpool 7 Tottenham 0, 2 September 1978) - YouTube[/ame]

[Norbs]

Good comparison FB

Salah's one was better, IMO. Margins tighter, more of the pitch worked, longer passes and infinitely better opponent

[Assassin]

I cant find the original one, might have been on facey, but found this one but its clear it first hits the arm and then bounces onto the side of his chest.
So yeh, handball.

Trent Alexander-Arnold Handball vs Man City | 10th Nov 2019 - YouTube

Of no consequence, as Silva handled it first

[Norbs]

The absolute state of him.

That last time he says it before turning round when he's looking up to the sky. Moody prick reminds me of Basil Fawlty

[Mr Pink]

Pep and officials having heated FT debate over which Godfather film is the best.

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/stat...92677264220160

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] debating the best godfather- someone needs to make a meme/gif with this caption- the world needs it.. rare that I LOL at something I read but I L’ed-OL at this [emoji23][emoji3577]

[Norbs]

https://mobile.twitter.com/EPLStuff/...hester-city%2F

How thick are some people? Idiot draws a straight line and makes no compensation for depth or perspective. If anyone on here uses Twitter, it'd be great to point out to them that should they continue to move their straight grid to the next stripe of grass it won't be in line because the stripe gets wider as it gets closer to the camera