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  • Norbs
    Big Girl's Blouse
    • Jun 2007
    • 42645

    #481

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    • Kenneth
      Pond Scum
      • May 2007
      • 65638

      #482
      Originally posted by Buzzo
      https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1247168815814848517
      Pep Guardiola's mother dies aged 82 after contracting coronavirus
      Originally posted by Norbs
      ****ing hell Norbs, not again.
      Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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      • spud_gun
        Paisley
        • Jul 2006
        • 26519

        #483
        Owners have seen sense.

        Shame on those on here who performed some extraordinary mental gymnastics in order to try and justify the original decision.

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        • Kenneth
          Pond Scum
          • May 2007
          • 65638

          #484
          Originally posted by spud_gun
          Owners have seen sense.

          Shame on those on here who performed some extraordinary mental gymnastics in order to try and justify the original decision.
          Still have no issue with it, other than the PR implications from people who do. I don't agree with the scheme, but that's a different matter.
          Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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          • spud_gun
            Paisley
            • Jul 2006
            • 26519

            #485
            Originally posted by Kenneth
            Still have no issue with it, other than the PR implications from people who do.
            Bully for you.

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            • Red_Polo
              Takin' Her Easy
              • Jul 2006
              • 35520

              #486
              Originally posted by Kenneth
              Still have no issue with it, other than the PR implications from people who do.
              Same.

              People will now of course claim their grand moral victory, whilst other companies in an even better position to cover salaries will get away with using the scheme and a much smaller number of those of rigid principle will unnecessarily expose their business to risk because they think 'should just about be ok'.

              Moral means testing like this is absolute rubbish. Get the tax right, get the relief right, simple as that.
              Like blood on iron

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              • Chris
                Typing Tourettes is a thing
                • Jul 2006
                • 20697

                #487
                Originally posted by spud_gun
                Owners have seen sense.

                Shame on those on here who performed some extraordinary mental gymnastics in order to try and justify the original decision.

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                • Liverpool
                  Paisley
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 16915

                  #488
                  I dont get why they rushed to announce it, not like they are going to run out of cash this month. It could come a time down the line where every club is doing it and there is a genuine need. Putting a statement out when football is already in the headlines and under pressure was daft as ****.

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                  • Kenneth
                    Pond Scum
                    • May 2007
                    • 65638

                    #489
                    Originally posted by Red_Polo
                    Same.

                    People will now of course claim their grand moral victory, whilst other companies in an even better position to cover salaries will get away with using the scheme and a much smaller number of those of rigid principle will unnecessarily expose their business to risk because they think 'should just about be ok'.

                    Moral means testing like this is absolute rubbish. Get the tax right, get the relief right, simple as that.
                    I get it, rally against it because it doesn't feel right etc. The amounts we were talking about were miniscule compared to cost to the Exchequer of the accounting gymnastics going on now at the end of the tax year. I bet some our deductable items would make interesting reading, but they're ok because they only bend the rules rather than break them. This scheme was open, simple and universal by design, the idea being companies could still plan and invest as normal to limit the impact on economic growth etc. I wonder what the next issue will be, maybe rich people castigated for dying on NHS ventilators when they could have gone private.
                    Last edited by Kenneth; 06-04-20, 06:37 PM.
                    Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                    • dom9
                      Ant Pisser
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 69013

                      #490
                      Originally posted by Red_Polo
                      Same.



                      People will now of course claim their grand moral victory, whilst other companies in an even better position to cover salaries will get away with using the scheme and a much smaller number of those of rigid principle will unnecessarily expose their business to risk because they think 'should just about be ok'.



                      Moral means testing like this is absolute rubbish. Get the tax right, get the relief right, simple as that.
                      Yep. Agreed. As I said before, I don't know how any one of us has enough information to make a judgement either way.

                      People just love to oversimplify things and turn everyone into heroes or villains.

                      There were some telling parts of the letter I'll highlight later when I get more time.
                      Oh I don't know.

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                      • dom9
                        Ant Pisser
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 69013

                        #491
                        Originally posted by Liverpool
                        I dont get why they rushed to announce it, not like they are going to run out of cash this month. It could come a time down the line where every club is doing it and there is a genuine need. Putting a statement out when football is already in the headlines and under pressure was daft as ****.
                        Yeah, that I definitely agree with too.
                        Oh I don't know.

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                        • RichC
                          Meh
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 37415

                          #492
                          Originally posted by Kenneth
                          Still have no issue with it, other than the PR implications from people who do. I don't agree with the scheme, but that's a different matter.

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                          • Norbs
                            Big Girl's Blouse
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 42645

                            #493
                            Originally posted by Kenneth
                            ****ing hell Norbs, not again.

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                            • brightred
                              Befuddled
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 3861

                              #494
                              I'm off to listen to Crouchie....love his podcasts
                              I love Sarah

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                              • dom9
                                Ant Pisser
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 69013

                                #495
                                [ame]https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1247624896546590720[/ame]
                                Oh I don't know.

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