Florian Wirtz - Welcome to LFC

[Buzzo]

'at goal' but not on target surely

Yeah, I mean you defo watch enough football to know we aren’t having 20 or 27 shots on target during a game. No team is doing that.

[vlahka]

I find it pointless to keep slagging off Wirtz when 3/4 of the team is playing worse than him.

[rudedog]

He's not helped by his teammates either at times. There is **** all movement or quick passing, so he gets stuck on the ball and loses it.

He's played nowhere near as bad as the vocal minority would have you believe.

He's the least of our worries at the moment.

Was going to post the same thing about our poor movement being the biggest issue we have. We are making it far too easy for teams to close down the man on the ball and set up traps in our passing lanes.

[kingfunk]

I was a bit surprised to say the least when it became apparent our best transition (from defence to attack) midfielder was been given a more advanced role this season, Grav should be our deepest lying midfielder imo, we shouldn’t need to depend on him for G/A.

[Norbs]

You’re being facetious- but I’ll bite.

We had 20 shots at goal v Palace, 16 against Galatasaray, 11 v Everton, 27 v Burnley…

So yeah, we’ve had more than 20 shots this season.

We keep conceding tho which to me is more of an issue.

'at goal' but not on target surely

[labourRed]

We have, but as Kenneth alluded to what's a good chance. We've had a lot more than 21 chances created this season (chance = shot on goal target/off target).

I'd like to know how many blocked shots we've had (at least double figures), although i can't actually be arsed to look it up.

I couldn't let this lie.

We've had 28 blocked shots, second only to Chelsea on 32.

Also, from the same site(fbref), a SCA which is slightly different to created, as it includes take ons/fouls. Wirtz features in the top 10 (7th for per 90), curiously one below Gravenberch which shows a subtle shift in his role. However how much of this is at the detriment to our overall defensive balance i'd question.

[labourRed]

Surely we hven't created that many chances in total so far this season, so what IS this stat really?

We have, but as Kenneth alluded to what's a good chance. We've had a lot more than 21 chances created this season (chance = shot on goal target/off target).

I'd like to know how many blocked shots we've had (at least double figures), although i can't actually be arsed to look it up.

[Buzzo]

You’re being facetious- but I’ll bite.

We had 20 shots at goal v Palace, 16 against Galatasaray, 11 v Everton, 27 v Burnley…

So yeah, we’ve had more than 20 shots this season.

We keep conceding tho which to me is more of an issue.

[Paul12]

I missed the entire game yesterday but saw this. You can 100% see his quality.

https://twitter.com/optajoe/status/1973332093833998806

Surely we hven't created that many chances in total so far this season, so what IS this stat really?

[Slinky Skills]

Calm down Deano lad.

[Harv]

To be fair it's the first game I've concentrated on but he makes runs, plays decent passes and sees the game. But he lacks lacks strength and is at time on a different wavelength. Hopefully he'll dumb down to our level

He's not helped by his teammates either at times. There is **** all movement or quick passing, so he gets stuck on the ball and loses it.

He's played nowhere near as bad as the vocal minority would have you believe.

He's the least of our worries at the moment.

[BigChief]

Also when Caicedo first joined Chelsea he was all over the place for months, now they are putting him up there with the best in the world.

[Kenneth]

Calm down Deano lad.

[Le Chef]

From having watched in in open play - I do think this guy is up there with Kenny, His movement is almost poetic, he sees thing that no else sees, he needs minutes to get used to the league, but by gosh, he is a generational talent.

[kingfunk]

Also when Caicedo first joined Chelsea he was all over the place for months, now they are putting him up there with the best in the world.