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    Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
    It’s not that tho is it. You can see the quality but he is in a misfiring team. His chances created stats are solid. Nobody is saying he’s had an outstanding season - but you can see his class, he’s 22 so he may need a season and a functioning team to show how good he is.

    Or write him off?
    I find it hard to judge the new players because the teams been so poor for the season and is all over the place tactically.

    Imagine if City had signed him he’d be flying in that team right now.

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        Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
        He only works if we have pacey wide players crossing. He isn't going to create **** all himself. Bad signing from start to finish.
        Terrible take with the root causes being bad coaching and a team that obviously imbalanced. Slot and Hughes are the root causes here, Isak is a top quality player.

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          If Wirtz needs to be parachuted into a dominant team in order to have some influence on a game then he's the definition of a luxury player. There are stacks of players than can look like world-beaters when opponents are pre-occupied with other players.

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            Originally posted by Rich View Post
            Wirtz is the least of our problems. We need to play to his strengths but Slot is unable to do it.

            Get a better manager in and get some guile and pace around Wirtz and he’ll come good.
            He’s what Bobby was to Rodger’s.

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              Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
              Terrible take with the root causes being bad coaching and a team that obviously imbalanced. Slot and Hughes are the root causes here, Isak is a top quality player.
              I've watched his goals. 80% are tap ins. We don't have anyone to create them. Worst signing we've ever made.
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                Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                It’s not that tho is it. You can see the quality but he is in a misfiring team. His chances created stats are solid. Nobody is saying he’s had an outstanding season - but you can see his class, he’s 22 so he may need a season and a functioning team to show how good he is.



                Or write him off?
                Im sure Slot will figure it out in the 50 odd games next season
                In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.

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                  Wow, lots of social media knee jerk reaction writing off top quality players who are in a **** system with a coach who is poorly performing.

                  Slot out, Hughes out.....

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                    Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                    Sure, but the issue isn't whether he's quality, it's that he should be doing better and being more effective.
                    I’m inclined to give him this season to acclimatise and hopefully judge him next season with a manager who knows hay to do with the squad. And a manager who knows where he wants Wirtz to play - Slot had tried him in so many positions and formations.

                    I’d add in Frimpong, neither a world beating right back or right wing. Both he and Kerkez look like wing backs to me. There are issues to be resolved wherever you look. Good players yes, but have we got a formation to fit them all?
                    Modifying post.

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                      Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                      I've watched his goals. 80% are tap ins. We don't have anyone to create them. Worst signing we've ever made.
                      What an awful take.

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                        Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                        I’m inclined to give him this season to acclimatise and hopefully judge him next season with a manager who knows hay to do with the squad. And a manager who knows where he wants Wirtz to play - Slot had tried him in so many positions and formations.

                        I’d add in Frimpong, neither a world beating right back or right wing. Both he and Kerkez look like wing backs to me. There are issues to be resolved wherever you look. Good players yes, but have we got a formation to fit them all?
                        Two things can be true, Slot clearly can't get the best out of several players, hasn't got a clue what style to play or what we are but also Wirtz individually has been very under whelming aswell. 105m players shouldn't have to have a season to acclimatise if we are honest. Happy to wait for Slot to piss off so we can see Wirtz next season though, does come across as a luxury player at the moment.

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                          Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
                          Wow, lots of social media knee jerk reaction writing off top quality players who are in a **** system with a coach who is poorly performing.

                          Slot out, Hughes out.....
                          Hughes absolutely cannot survive this; Slot might, but probably shouldn't. But Hughes has blown a massive budget on two players who have given next to nothing this season. No doubt they are both good players, but we didn't diversify our spending well enough. Isak and Wirtz, but no Guehi....
                          Really?

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                            Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
                            Wow, lots of social media knee jerk reaction writing off top quality players who are in a **** system with a coach who is poorly performing.

                            Slot out, Hughes out.....
                            As so many have said if every player is playing poorly and dropped off so much from last season while the new players still look lost at times and the team struggles to play 90 minutes it’s down to one person.

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                              Grim as **** over two games.

                              The atmosphere was never truly there tonight and neither was the belief ultimately. We've been atrocious all year so one game was never going to change that, certainly not against one of the best if not the best team in the world possibly.

                              Slot needs to go though, now preferably but end of the season more likely. Whoever comes in has a major job implementing some belief into that team.

                              It needs strength and pace in every position and some playmakers that can dictate games and some leadership qualities, we're desperately lacking.
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                                Yeah Hughes need to go too

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