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They pay less tax over there though, that's why Peter Ebdon moved there
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We know.Originally posted by kopdan View Postfair comment but he is no wiser than us as to what the deal is..is he.
I think the stadium will be paid for, debts cleared and rafa will get spending money.
**** me I'm an pervert.
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What will happen now is that prices will become so inflated that with the same mentality as before we will just try the cheap way and haggle for months and monthsWhen you feel like you're done, you are not alone........Comment
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Not even in 2 different countries, such as Falkirk or TNS?Originally posted by Chris View PostComment
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Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
They're buying Moores stakeholding. That's 51%.Or 17923 shares. Moores is insisting on them buying the unissued capital as well. This is effectively the only money they'll be putting into the club. The rest goes to Moores. The £450m figure is just pulled out of the air, it's a nonsensical figure based on misinformation.Hopefully they'll buy Moores' shares and the unissued shares. There are 15,177 unissued shares, if they are bought at the rumoured price of £6k it will mean the club will recieve £91m.
Moores can expect to receive £107 538 000 (17923 x 6,000)
The DIC specialise in "leveraged buy outs", for anyone who hasn't learned business double speak leveraged means using a mixture of debt and equity. So you can expect us to take on more debt in the process of building the stadium. They are unlikely to fund it completely by themselves because of the complications of investing more in the club mean that the share capital structure would need to be altered significantly, I think it needs to be done by a special resolution rather than an ordinary one so that means they need 75% of the shareholders to agree with it to go ahead. I can't see Steve Morgan or Granada being happy with seeing their respective shareholdings reduced, so it would pose difficulties.
For anyone who doesn't think they can make money out of this ..... think about it.
We've got a 12 year (?) waiting list for season tickets and a 6 year waiting list for corporate boxes. That is excess demand. The new stadium will help to cater for that excess demand, and help the company to capitalise on it.
You can talk all you want about merchandising potential etc , but the easiest way to increase revenues is by increasing our match day revenues. Man Utd found that out the hard way. Do any Dubliners remember the Man Utd Superstore ? It's now a nightclub, United got their fingers burned in operations like that in Dublin so focused on the stadium as the way to increase revenues.Comment
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That's the geezer.Comment
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They'll have a racing track around the new pitch. We can have football and Horses
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Right, okay. Henceforth people are banned from wearing Arab outfits to Anfield.Originally posted by Redlife View Post
That's the geezer.
It won't be funny so don't bother.I hate PolanskiComment
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Most of the crap you've written there is inconsistent with facts reported by more august bodies than yourself.Originally posted by Rosco View Post
They're buying Moores stakeholding. That's 51%.Or 17923 shares. Moores is insisting on them buying the unissued capital as well. This is effectively the only money they'll be putting into the club. The rest goes to Moores. The £450m figure is just pulled out of the air, it's a nonsensical figure based on misinformation.Hopefully they'll buy Moores' shares and the unissued shares. There are 15,177 unissued shares, if they are bought at the rumoured price of £6k it will mean the club will recieve £91m.
Moores can expect to receive £107 538 000 (17923 x 6,000)
The DIC specialise in "leveraged buy outs", for anyone who hasn't learned business double speak leveraged means using a mixture of debt and equity. So you can expect us to take on more debt in the process of building the stadium. They are unlikely to fund it completely by themselves because of the complications of investing more in the club mean that the share capital structure would need to be altered significantly, I think it needs to be done by a special resolution rather than an ordinary one so that means they need 75% of the shareholders to agree with it to go ahead. I can't see Steve Morgan or Granada being happy with seeing their respective shareholdings reduced, so it would pose difficulties.
For anyone who doesn't think they can make money out of this ..... think about it.
We've got a 12 year (?) waiting list for season tickets and a 6 year waiting list for corporate boxes. That is excess demand. The new stadium will help to cater for that excess demand, and help the company to capitalise on it.
You can talk all you want about merchandising potential etc , but the easiest way to increase revenues is by increasing our match day revenues. Man Utd found that out the hard way. Do any Dubliners remember the Man Utd Superstore ? It's now a nightclub, United got their fingers burned in operations like that in Dublin so focused on the stadium as the way to increase revenues.
You're just a scaremongering doomsayer. Go back to 6CM.The Crushing Machine MKIIComment
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Hahahahaha .....Originally posted by SpeedyG View Post
If you want to believe the bull**** printed in tabloids go ahead.Comment
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fight fight fightOriginally posted by SpeedyG View Post
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Who, Frankie Dettori?Originally posted by Redlife View Post
That's the geezer.
Babel fanclub member # 4!!!
**** OFF MOURINHO!!!!!!:whatever:Comment
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Cue all the photoshopper rival fans putting turbans over the heads of Rafa and the players and dressing up as arabs coming into Anfield
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Why am I not suprised that you consider the tabloids an "august body".Originally posted by Rosco View Post
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To be fair he is only bringing a much needed balance to the debate.Originally posted by SpeedyG View Post
There is no way that the reason that this group is investing is purely sentimental. I'm fairly sure that they will want some form of retuen - what form this will take who knows. Maybe they simply want to be able to use us as effectively a poster board for advertising for their other interests due to our global reach.
I don't see it being a panacea where we get enormous funds. However I can see that we have significant areas where the business aspects of LFC can be improved and part of this would be the simple investment in a new stadium. Partly the better use of our global brand.
We will however have to pay a price - it is very likeley that one or more of the following will take place :
We will buy plyers purely to add value to our brand.
We will take part in pre-season tours to countries based on sponsorship rather than footballing concerns.
Ticket prices will be raised.
Our new stadium will be named after a sponsor.
None of them are completely terrible but they may well dilute the things that make Liverpool special.
The alternative hope is that in some way this is all about prestige and that the investment company is in effect a front for the personal interests of the Saudi royal family. It does however seem unlikely."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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