some academy gossip

[enema of the state]

I have the same feeling about Heighway and Souness. Brilliant players, but that's it.

Not everybody that is a Brilliant player has the ability to pass on their knowledge and experience. In fact very few Brilliant players, have gone on to have a Good career after playing

Heighway has been at the academy for a long time, he's had plenty support and has failed to produce the goods. I'm all for keeping Local content in the squad and the Bootroom, but if you are not Good enough, then You are Not good enough.

good post

[enema of the state]

Can`t we just buy their entire youth set-up? Sounds a lot better than ours.

i think thats what the recruitment of elias was meant to achieve

theres no doubting the quality of his youth set up at sothampton

[Resu]

So he`s the head of their academy.
Sounds like a very good idea.

[enema of the state]

INot everybody that is a Brilliant player has the ability to pass on their knowledge and experience. In fact very few Brilliant players, have gone on to have a Good career after playing

most of the best managers ive seen are people who had frustrations and/or limited success in their playing careers hence having things to prove:

clough, ferguson, paisley, shankly, wenger, mourinho etc..

notable exception would be dalglish

[enema of the state]

So he`s the head of their academy.
Sounds like a very good idea.

was mate

now hes the head of youth development or something at lfc but basically hes heighways replacement in waiting.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N152754060629-1318.htm

[SouthAfricaRed]

most of the best managers ive seen are people who had frustrations and/or limited success in their playing careers hence having things to prove:

clough, ferguson, paisley, shankly, wenger, mourinho etc..

notable exception would be dalglish

IMO The only Great players I can think of that have made it as managers are Beckenbauer, Cruyff and Dalglish.

Anybody think of someone else?

[AFII]

IMO The only Great players I can think of that have made it as managers are Beckenbauer, Cruyff and Dalglish.

Anybody think of someone else?

Rijkaard.

[Resu]

Maldini Sr?

[dirty_sanchez]

Van Basten? Klinsmann? Sammer? Zoff?

[SouthAfricaRed]

Rijkaard.

Yes, Off Course

Maldini Sr?

Definately

Van Basten? Klinsmann? Sammer? Zoff?

Zoff, yes

Van Basten and Klinsmann - Jury still out if they are good managers

Sammer, I wouldn't class him as a Great Player, but he's definately doing Ok as a manager

[enema of the state]

Yes, Off Course



Definately



Zoff, yes

Van Basten and Klinsmann - Jury still out if the are good managers

Sammer, I wouldn't class him as a Great Player, but he definately did well as a manager

most of these if not all have coached abroad

very rare in the english league...in fact id go so far to say that the very best british footballers have largely fallen short as top level coaches: keegan/robson/souness/francis/platt/GAZZA

[dom9]

I think in Heighways defence, it could be argued that the players he's had to develop simply aren't good enough. If the talent isn't there, what can you do?

Southampton have a much bigger catchment area than us too. Apart from Portsmouth, they have been the only big club (premierhsip) on the south coast for over a decade, and their scouting network stretches as far as Bristol, Devon and Cornwall. If you're a kid in those areas, they are more likely to choose Sothampton than Bristol Rovers.

We have to compete with umpteen other clubs in the North West to get the best local talent.

Southampton had the foresight to implement such a strategy in the 90s, and it has helped them. It didn't save from relegation though.

[SouthAfricaRed]

Southampton had the foresight to implement such a strategy in the 90s, and it has helped them. It didn't save from relegation though.

It's because their owner is more interested in making money by selling the players than keeping the club in the EPL

[dom9]

To be fair, if you were in their shoes, having been relegated, would you take 12M for a 17 year old that had never played in the Premiership?

[dirty_sanchez]

Sammer, I wouldn't class him as a Great Player, but he's definately doing Ok as a manager

You are most certainly having a laugh. Sammer was an absolutely amazing player. One of the best in the world in his day.