Fernando Torres

[Liverpool]

With respect, that's nonsense.

dont be daft craig hes taller than 6'2 so he MUST he rubbish with his feet

[Kenneth]

He's 22 FFS. How do you know how good he can/will be?

Shearer was far from the finished article at 22 as well, but he didnt do too badly.

That's absolutely true. But it's also true for the vast majority of players to some extent. Doesn't mean he's likely to end up being like Alan Shearer. Of course he might, and I agree he should get our support.

I just think buying him was a worrying mistake by Comolli and the manager.

[Kenneth]

Taking the Spurs game as an example. In the 1st half, he got passed the ball, controlled it, turned. Touched it again, with such a piss poor touch that the ball moved 3 yards away from him into no-mans land with a spurs player coming in fast. To save face he slides towards the ball into the incoming Spurs player and draws a foul.Less than 5 seconds. Watch.

That was notably bad, yes. The odd one you can forgive, every player drops their concentration sometimes. We'll see.

[Mostar]

Phil Jones made it go wide by pure will power......

[Trippendicular]

That's absolutely true. But it's also true for the vast majority of players to some extent. Doesn't mean he's likely to end up being like Alan Shearer. Of course he might, and I agree he should get our support.

I just think buying him was a worrying mistake by Comolli and the manager.

Doesn't sound like he's got your support

[lickedlollipop]

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

Is this now the Andy Carroll thread. He's our new Lucas. Just you fockers watch.

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

LLiLickedlolly that miss cost me money. the stupid cunt.

[McDermotX]

Great miss, along with an absolute **** overhead earlier in the game (I expect more from the undisputed king of overheads)......(less said about the finish for his goal ).........can't wait to see what he has in store for us in the coming weeks.
Perhaps a missed peno ?, perhaps a red card ?.......stay tuned to find out.

[Craig_H]

Taking the Spurs game as an example. In the 1st half, he got passed the ball, controlled it, turned. Touched it again, with such a piss poor touch that the ball moved 3 yards away from him into no-mans land with a spurs player coming in fast. To save face he slides towards the ball into the incoming Spurs player and draws a foul.Less than 5 seconds. Watch.

I saw and in any case, i dont need to watch to know that the suggestion that Carroll (or any PL player) 'lacks the ability to carry the ball or keep the ball for longer than 5 seconds' is nonsense.

You're probably vastly exaggerating for effect. But in any case, your observation is plainly untrue.

[Craig_H]

That's absolutely true. But it's also true for the vast majority of players to some extent. Doesn't mean he's likely to end up being like Alan Shearer. Of course he might, and I agree he should get our support.

I just think buying him was a worrying mistake by Comolli and the manager.

That's primarily to do with the fee, if we're honest, isnt it?

And as i've been saying, he had no say about the fee, so i wish people would stop blaming him and using it as a stick to beat him with - which is clearly what's happening, because if he'd cost £8m, he wouldnt be getting half the criticism he has been getting.

[lickedlollipop]

because if he'd cost £8m ...

i always somehow rated carroll, but tbh, he was, realistic worth just about £8m.

[Craig_H]

Was he? I'm not sure any footballer is worth the sums of money we talk about when it comes to transfer fees at the higher end of the market.

[Kenneth]

Of course it's to do with the fee. And I'm not knocking him, I'm critical of the fact that the replacement for Torres, a striker who is the clubs record buy by a mile, isn't performing and probably never will perform at the level that a player in such a role should. That is, primarily, a criticism of the decision to buy him, not a personal comment on the player.

I would indeed expect a lot less from a striker who cost 8m. Much lower fee, much smaller risk and we'd probably have bought better quality elsewhere with the difference.

I think it's the situation (as covered above) rather than the man that people are unhappy with.

[lickedlollipop]

true. but still: i don't know what the f*ck was lfc administration doing. anyway, this is not thread about carroll here.

fck judas