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    Always was a Torres fan, until he wanted to leave.

    For me, it wasn't the fact that he wanted to leave, because i still love Xabi , it was the fact he said it three days before the transfer window ended - knowing it would make things extremely difficult for us to replace him in that short space of time.

    Made up with the £50m, made up with Suarez and Carroll, not happy with how Torres left.

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      Originally posted by Mike View Post
      Always was a Torres fan, until he wanted to leave.

      For me, it wasn't the fact that he wanted to leave, because i still love Xabi , it was the fact he said it three days before the transfer window ended - knowing it would make things extremely difficult for us to replace him in that short space of time.

      Made up with the £50m, made up with Suarez and Carroll, not happy with how Torres left.
      So you're happy with the fee and the replacements that fee bought but you're unhappy he left us with inadequate time to replace him with good enough players.

      Someone's brain hurts and I don't know if it's yours or mine.
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      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



      May the Lord bless this post.

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        Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
        So you're happy with the fee and the replacements that fee bought but you're unhappy he left us with inadequate time to replace him with good enough players.

        Someone's brain hurts and I don't know if it's yours or mine.
        Its yours

        I never said i was unhappy that he left us, i was unhappy with HOW he left us i.e. transfer request three days from the end of the transfer window - left us with a lot to do in a short space of time.

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          ...which worked out fine so there was no problem.

          No, it's yours.
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          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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            Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
            ...which worked out fine so there was no problem.

            No, it's yours.
            Not the point, he knew that putting the request in so late would put us in an unfavourable position; out of respect for the club, he shouldn't of done that.

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              You're looking for an excuse to hate him. Events proved the timing of his transfer request wasn't a problem so your starting assumption is wrong.
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              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



              May the Lord bless this post.

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                Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                You're looking for an excuse to hate him. Events proved the timing of his transfer request wasn't a problem so your starting assumption is wrong.
                Perhaps not in terms of getting players in but it is possible we paid a premium for them given the timing. Although I tend to think we have to have been expecting it all and the blame has to be at least shared by the hierarchy of the club if this is the case.
                "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                -- William Blake

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                  Liverpool’s newly promoted Director of Football, Damien Comolli believes the atmosphere at the club has improved greatly since the departure of Fernando Torres in January.

                  The Reds ripped off Chelsea for £50million for the Spanish striker, who is yet to score for his new club, and Comolli believes the air of negativity Torres had at the club has now been lifted.

                  He said, “When you have someone who doesn’t want to be here and you swap him for people who want to be here the atmosphere changes.

                  “It’s like there is a bright new sky with no cloud over our head from the day that happened. So it’s been only positive.”

                  Comolli was given a promotion from Director of Football Strategy to Director of Football after impressive work since joining the club in November last year.

                  Comolli was intrumental in negotiations to bring Uruguayan striker Luis Suarez to Anfield, who has set the team alight in his first few games at the club.

                  Meanwhile, he is equally happy with the acquisition of Andy Carroll, who made his first league start for the club after injury in Sunday’s 2-0 victory over Sunderland at the Stadium of Light.

                  He continued, “I am very, very pleased for two reasons. First, because we got a top player. He’s young, English, with all the attributes you want from a modern centre-forward in the way we want to play.

                  “Secondly, because getting two players triggered the fact that we could sell one player who didn’t want to be here and get two who did want to be here. That was really a relief for those reasons.”

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                    Poor old Babel, it's as if he never even existed.
                    If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                      Originally posted by RedReet View Post
                      Poor old Babel, it's as if he never even existed.
                      It's certainly a theory that would explain a lot. I always suspected his twitter account was just another Shaggy alias.
                      "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                      -- William Blake

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                        No worse than some of the other ‘theories’ that are often referred to as fact on here.
                        If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                          Did we ever find out who Marky was?

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                            Originally posted by dww View Post
                            Perhaps not in terms of getting players in but it is possible we paid a premium for them given the timing. Although I tend to think we have to have been expecting it all and the blame has to be at least shared by the hierarchy of the club if this is the case.
                            I'm sure Torres's transfer request wasn't a complete shock. The club "played hardball" (apologies for the Americanism but I suppose it's not completely inappropriate in this case) and getting Torres to hand in a request was part of that along with, of course, the high price Chelsea ended up having to pay.

                            The price for Suarez was going up throughout the whole month and making a crazy offer for Carroll was surely the only realistic way Newcastle were going to sell, even if they had weeks to sort out the deal.

                            Plus it's certainly arguable the short timescale made it harder for other clubs to go for Carroll because there weren't days or weeks of speculation about his availability.
                            Last edited by Neil Young; 23-03-11, 06:34 PM.
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                            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                            May the Lord bless this post.

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                              Originally posted by Mike View Post
                              Did we ever find out who Marky was?
                              Erm...Marky?
                              Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!

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                                PTP made what now appears to be a false confession when Marky was written out of EST.
                                Felching ≠ Gerbilling

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